Wrong. Experts and non experts alike easily make the same shots or better time after time after time I have demonstrated this fact time after time after time you are now no longer merely misinformed you are childishly LYING
A Hammer is not a weapon at all it is a tool which could be used as a weapon. A rifle is a weapon and worked well for oswald's purposes
Absolutely false. Spector DID demonstrate only that the second bullet hit two men and in doing so caused multiple entrance and exit wounds. This is not magical or unusual or uncommon. He never claimed it traveled uphill at all and it did not need to do so.
He had it on there because that is the way he bought it. The rifle came to him with the cheap scope mounted.' You are dead wrong. The experts and non experts alike proved it was easy to do there is no question and it is merely an urban legend that no one else could do it.
Wrong it is conspiracy theorists working backwards and demanding evidence to support a pre ordained conclusion. The warren commission and others followed the evidence to it's conclusion and the evidence proves the Carcano was used and quite adequate to the task
If the argument is that it is impossible to get 3 shots off in the time allowed by the AZ film….you have something. If the time allowed for in the AZ film is long enough to get the number of shots off; the argument is that a US Marine cannot hit a target 2 out of 3 times? That is an incredibly weak argument.
The problem with judging the time or " allowing " a certain amount of time by using the AZ film is that it is not precise. The film obviously has no sound therefore no one can click a stop watch with the fist shot and stop the time with the last shot. It is well established that the head shot was the final shot fired which means we can mark that frame as the instant that the time ends. But when exactly did it begin? Many experts have studied this and have arrived at more than one conclusion. They do so by studying other frames and trying to note the instant when other shots were fired by noting people's reactions. Obviously this is very imprecise and is open to interpretation and error. The WC went with the shortest probable amount of time which is just about 6 seconds. Which is an adequate amount of time to fire those 3 aimed shots. Others have concluded the first shot was fired earlier leaving even more time to fire them. One group of researchers working for NAT GEO theorized the first shot was MUCH earlier allowing as long as 20 seconds. They all have their merits and some supporting circumstantial evidence but nothing conclusive. Either way the timing is a dead issue as we know even a brief time of six seconds or slightly less is enough to get off 3 aimed shots.
And yet, numerous attempts to recreate the shooting Oswald was supposed to have done have failed.....and all with shooters much more accomplished than Oswald. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-had-no-time-to-fire-all-Kennedy-bullets.html Yet another failed attempt.
Saw a guy at a game pulled from the stands. He is offered 10000 to make A basket for amid court. He takes the shot and makes it. The very last shot of the game was the NBA player taking a much easier shot and missing. Again, if he had the time, he has the capability to make the shots. Did he have the time...yes or no?
Lots of people have made shots from mid court and beyond that even! Has anyone made the shot that Oswald is credited with, in the time allotted, under the same conditions and with the same handicaps?` NOPE! Try harder. Stevie Wonder has the "capability" to make those shots if you put a gun in his hands. Facts – You Decide No one has ever duplicated the marksmanship attributed to Oswald. The CBS Reenactment Test CBS news did a reenactment in 1967 involving several expert riflemen firing from a 60 foot tower at a moving sled using a similar Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. None of these expert riflemen hit the target twice on their first try and 7 of them failed to do so on any try. They also were able to fire several practice rounds before the test.http://themanfrom2063.com/lee-harvey-oswalds-marksmanship/
"So your answer is yes…he had time to get off the shots the WC accredited to him? Is that the case?" In theory he did. Hitting what you are shooting at with a misalined scope as it moves away from you through tree branches is another matter. If you want to claim Oswald could do what no one else has duplicated be my guest. It doesn't make me look like a clown. Take a guess who it does make look foolish.
And your allegation of a “misaligned scope” is supported by what exactly? Is it not true that a scope can become mis-aligned by simply dropping the rifle?
LOL....that has already been asked and answered and if you want to look up the Warren Commission testimony of Agent Robert A. Frazier you are more than welcome. (as if the matter of the scope makes all the difference in helping horrible marksman Lee Harvey Oswald perform a feat no one can duplicate...).
Well, I’ve posted two videos of persons duplicating Oswald’s feat of hitting a target 2 out of 3 times. IN fact, in the video, two guys hit the target 3 times. So you’re factually incorrect on that stance. Isn’t it true that a scope can become mis-aligned by simply dropping the rifle and the scope being slightly moved?
Congratulations on NOT duplicating the shooting feat of Lee Harvey Oswald. None of your recreation did what Oswald is said to have done. But you have shown someone up on a platform, from a nice comfy postition, can shoot three rounds (when it suits him) and hit some stationary bales of hay in an alloted time. And presumably with a perfectly functioning sight. Of course that totally misses the whole point but whoever said the fans of the Oswald theory were honestly defending their position. It's not possible. Yes, but once again, so what! That's not the issue and Agent Frazier discusses what he had to do to make the cheap Japanese sight on Oswladld's so called murder weapon of any value at all.. Even a fool like SoupNazi has conceded this point long ago.
Two persons in the two videos recreated and, in fact, exceeded Oswald’s ‘feat’. Factually incorrect. Gee, just like in your video with Jesse Ventura…. The first video, narrated by Dan Rather, had a moving sled that also had time constraints of start and stop. Factually incorrect. Actually, your video had the bales of hay; not mine. My two videos had a moving sled on one and some stationary silhouette targets on the other. No evidence suggests at the time that LHO didn’t have a perfectly functioning sight except for the examination afterword. Actually truthful experiments and recreations authoritatively contradicts your allegations with visual evidence of persons (multiple) doing what you say wasn’t done. Feel free to watch the videos. It removes the “his sights were off” as some sort of evidence since it could have happened while he was leaving the TSBD
But not in all respects and not under the constraints Oswald had, or allegedly had. And of course, everyone knows one of those shots was fired from the front of Kennedy and blew out the back of his head so the whole point is an exercise in futility. How many ways would you like to debunk your theories? Which should have enabled him to recreate what Oswald did, but it did not. Show me anywhere in the sixth floor of the Dallas School Book Depository where there was a comparable set up for the assassin to use. Of course there was not. Great debating technique where you totally ignore the objections of others to make your irrelevant claim. As far as I know Lee Harvey Oswald is not alleged to have gone off for a warm up practice session before his alleged deed and he did not get to chose the time of his own convenience when he would commence firing....he had to shoot when the motorcade passed nearby. And once more, not a single one of the volunteer shooters made their attempts with a completely misaligned sight. And not a one of them had Oswald's dismal record as a marksman. The assassin (whoever he was) did not shoot at a stationary target. And the not a one of the volunteer marksmen had to crouch down into a pretzel like configuration to avoid detection like the real assassin had to. And not a one had to shoot through tree foliage and at the acute angle the real assassin had to use. One would only say that if, like you, he was completely ignorant of the problems Robert A. Frazer had affixing the sight to Oswald's Manlicher Carcano so it was actually functioning as intended. I have and not a one of them honestly and faithfully recreates the conditions Oswald would have to shoot under. And of course, not a one of those volunteers was the horrible marksman he was either. Which, of course, you always disingenuously ignore. You simply don't know anything about this so why continue to flap your virtual gums over this point?
Speculation without any basis whatsoever. What “constraints” were those? They recreated the speed of the target, the height of the sniper’s nest, the rifle, the bullets, the size of the target… Again, it shows that your claims that Oswald’s “feats” could not be duplicated were, in fact, duplicated and even exceeded. Not sure what practice Oswald had. He owned the gun; presumably he had time to practice. Factually incorrect. There is no evidence the sight was mis-aligned while Oswald was using it. Those in the two videos had different backgrounds; none were experts. One scored 3 hits meaning that 2 hits for someone with extensive training one gets as a Marine would be more than sufficient. Which makes me wonder why you posted the video of Jesse Ventura doing just that???? Given it was November, the foliage would be limited if there at all. Detection on the 6th floor? lol I know more than you do given the retreats you’ve had to make about first there being no scope, then there not being enough time to fire the shots, then nobody being able to recreate the shots…..now you’re reduced to saying that their posture was more favorable than Oswald’s? What’s next…are you going to say that Oswald had looser shoe laces or something equally moronic?
