President Trump Criticizes Socialism in State of the Union

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    YOU FOOL! THEY ARE NOT SOCIALISTS THEY ARE COMMUNISTS!!



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  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tomato, tomahto...:wink:
     
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  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can only hope Republicans follow his lead. For too long they have been too weak and cowardly to utter the S-Word.
     
  4. XploreR

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    We need not worry about anything "leading to" tyranny. It's already here, residing inside that extreme discrepancy of wealth impoverishing a growing majority of Americans. You & your conservative friends are defending a system that has made 26 of our wealthiest individuals owners of as much wealth as 50% of the entire world's current population (about 3.5 billion people). If you think that system is OK & worth defending, go for it. I think it's sick. :(
     
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    That's why they don't want the Constitution.
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    And nothing is more private than a person's own earnings. What John Roberts did was reprehensible.
     
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  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Socialist poppycock.

    Capitalism and free enterprise have enabled Americans to enjoy unprecedented levels of prosperity, while socialist economies collapsed (as Ludwig von Mises predicted they would in 1922, the year the Soviet Union was born) and their people were reduced to poverty and shortages of the most basic necessities of necessities, from food to fuel to toilet paper. Arguably worse, they were robbed of their economic freedom, which is inseparable from individual freedom, and forced to rely on the whims of a tyrannical, totalitarian and incompetent state.

    To say that people can't achieve their dreams or hit it rich in America is pure unadulterated bullshit, and I know this from my own firsthand experience. I come from a lower working class family in Chicago and I know what poverty and hunger is, and eventually I was able to raise myself out of that condition without the assistance of the government and achieve my dreams. Today I live a life that my grandparents could only dream of. For you to say that can't happen in America is a disgrace.

    Furthermore, I have friends who used to live in the USSR, Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria, and they could tell you how terrible life was under socialism.

    This year marks the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the socialists in this country still haven't gotten the message. They insist on ignoring and repeating History's mistakes and when confronted with what's going on in places like Venezuela they avert their eyes.

    WAKE UP.

    We need less socialism in this country, not more.
     
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  8. XploreR

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    In recent studies, it was determined that 26 of the world's richest individuals own more wealth than half the rest of the population of the entire planet--about 3.5 billion people. That kind of inequity is not only tragic, it's immoral. How do you feel about the fact that 80% of all Americans live from paycheck to paycheck, and have less than $400. available for emergencies at any given moment? Is that the kind of America you describe above? Does that kind of America make you happy? That is the America your post glorifies & supports. What would it take to convince you that something is amiss? What would motivate you to support change?
     
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    And that is the major reason I stand up to them daily.
     
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    I make less than the national average and I have several thousand dollars in savings just for emergency expenditures (separate from my 401k and retirement stuff). I know people who live paycheck to paycheck and most of them are just ****ing idiots who don't know how to control their spending and save money and invest. You can't fix stupid. I USED to live paycheck to paycheck and it took me over 10 years to figure it out how to be more responsible but eventually I did. Lots of poor people are poor simply because they are ****ing morons and lazy asshats. I know because I used to be one of them.

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  11. US Conservative

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    The memes and video's are priceless.

    Theres a vid out there where Trump calls out socialism, and it pans to bernie, and the curb your enthusiasm song starts.

    BEST SOTU ever.
     
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    Learn about the economic system you love...
     
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    Why are there 9 judges on the supreme court? Are you suggesting that a majority decision by SCOTUS is somehow "unconstitutional" when IIRC, they are constitutionally empowered to make such determinations? Publishing minority opinions is part of the process, but that does not render the majority opinion unconstitutional.

    AS for eminent domain and the expropriation of private land to another private owner is centered around the definition of "public use". Seems a local community has some pretty wide latitude in determining what is in the public interest/welfare. That has been the legal precedent for decades, as it not?

    And upholding the constitution is exactly the job of SCOTUS. It is structured to allow for dissent, because I believe the founders understood that the drafting of laws is an inexact science that cannot necessarily anticipate all of the conditions and actions pertaining to said written law. Indeed the entire judicial system is predicated on that obvious first principle.
     
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    I agree trumpettes want to throw out the constitution and empower dear leader trump.
     
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    Exactly.

    They want Trump as Fearless Leader for Life.
     
  16. PeppermintTwist

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    And the sycophantic tools keep supporting the policies that are enabling the insane disparity.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this. Please clarify something for me because I'm not seeing what the issue is:

    When Trump says the US will never be a socialist nation, isn't that agreeing with your first post by his positing that - as we would NOT be socialist, that the government would never take control the means of production within the state? So if he's agreeing with the Constitution that we should prevent that, then why do you say in the next post that he wants to throw it out when you seem to be saying he agrees with it in your first post? Or are you saying that his followers want to do it rather than him?
     
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    No kidding.

    Trump DOESN'T even know what the term "Socialism" means.

    On top of that, what an Ugly Mofo:

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    Donald Trump? :roflol:
     
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    There is absolutely nothing appealing about this bloviated racketeer.
     
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    How come FDR wanted to pack the court? (extra leftist judges?)

    Was it to withold the constitution?

    Provide citations, please.
     
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    Socialism depends on government control of the wealth.

    Capitalism depends on the private possession of wealth.

    Therefore, Socialism inhibits personal initiative.

    Capitalism promotes personal initiative.

    Progressives are always trying to convince people that they will benefit from being dependent. Antebellum Slavery was defended for the exact same reason. AKA "The slaves couldn't take care of themselves and therefore were better off being slaves."
     
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    How could anyone criticize socialism?
     
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    Wages are actually starting to go up.

    The marginal propensity to consume for the average family has begun to surge.

    The individual mandate helped cause the longest sustained wage stagnation period since the Grover Cleveland administration fiasco that was highlighted by the 1893 depression.

    Easily refuted !!
     

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