Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    The guy contradicts himself right from the start.
    First he says the Bible is more violent.
    Then he says the Christian text is more violent than the Islamic text.

    So what, You are wrong but guess what, Lets say you are right.
    First of all the Qur'an is not a religion.
    The Qur'an is one of the books in the worlds most violent religion.
    We know the Jewish OT is more violent than the Christian NT

    The Qur'an is only 14% of Islamic text.
    what about the teachings and deeds of Muhammed.
    Are you forgetting about them.
    You didn't even read his results, numbers like 2%, 4%,
    In Muhammeds 1st Bio, in 80% of the writings, he is robbing, raping, or killing someone. there is no comparison in any religion on earth.

    I gave an example right here on this thread on the killings of Muhammed.
    These alone, exceed all the violence in all the Jewish text.
    Then I offered to list the raids Muhammed went on, usually killing all the males, and taking the females hostage.
    Again the tortures are very graphic and some of them cover many pages.
    Badr alone is over 30 pages.

    Now, I posted all I need to prove you are wrong, all you have to do is read it. and I can post more for days.

    Then shall we go into sexual perversion, how about thievery, how about torture, that covers more and more.


    And BTW, Writing BS, and then putting me on Ignore is further proof you are totally misinformed and afraid to admit it.

    I post book and verse number for anything I write, and if I miss it, point it out and I will.
    You post nothing but opinions from mysterious writers, and your own imagination.


    Hey, you want more proof, lets bet on it, 100 bucks payable to the site.

    You post a verse of violence from Judio/Christian writings
    I'll post one from Islamic text.
    See who runs out first.

    And just for kicks, I'll spot you 20 verses, from the start.

    Hell, Taburi is 40 volumes long.
    I could just take one of those volumes and beat you.

    But your stupid comparison says the Qur'an and the bible and pretends that is all of the Islamic text.
    It does not say the sunnah and the teachings of Muhammed.
     
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  2. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Re:
    You've been posting cherry picked hate screeds for weeks & have persuaded no one.

    Meanwhile, a far more credible source confirms that you're wrong:

    "'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals"
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...han-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html
     
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    He has already been shown it my friend! He thinks that by spewing hate filled verses and avoiding any criteria by which to judge Islam he can make a point. As others have said his ideas have been burned over and over again.
     
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    Thanks.

    I noted that you showed him the same study earlier and I may have run across it due to your efforts.
    If so, I am grateful to you.

    I, too am not sure what point "yasureoktoo" is trying to make other than to broadcast "I hate Muslims!" or "I hate Islam!" on as many pages of as many threads as possible.

    Yes, we know....so what.

    Anyone can go to any one of the Islamophobic hate sites authored by Muslim hating loons such as "TheReligionOfPeace" etc and find slander of Muslims.

    However the source "MEDIA BIAS / FACT CHECK" dismisses this particular Islamophobic web site, "The ReligionOfPeace" as:

    EXCERPT:
    "Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Hate Group

    A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis."CONTINUED(1)


    It simply seems fruitless to assert that any of the world's religions is either morally inferior or superior to any of the other religions.
    If you don't like Islam, no one is forcing you to be an adherent.



    (1) "MEDIA BIAS/FACT CHECK"
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-religion-of-peace/
     
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  5. chris155au

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    Your silence speaks volumes! :roflol:
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You got these replies?:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...olent-religion.550376/page-32#post-1070266661

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...olent-religion.550376/page-33#post-1070266685
     
  7. Grau

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    The term "pressured" is in the title of the article and specific examples are mentioned in the article.

    Re:
    I don't know.
     
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    how many tens of millions were killed by Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Tito? All European Christians.
     
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    Wow...42 pages and NOBODY succeeded in proving this wrong. Pathetic apologists are going back to world War 1 history out of desperation when just last week 100s of Islam terrorists sex slave heads were found in containers...after 42 pages it's quite abundantly clear which religion is the most violent.
     
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    ww2. tens of millions killed by violent white christians
     
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    42 whole pages in response to a twee Islamophobic rant.

    lol.
     
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    Yes it was clear early on you had lost your bet, Christians had killed more and had the most violent texts.
     
  14. Grau

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    Apparently, you skipped a page:

    "'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals"
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...han-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html

    EXCERPT "An analysis into whether the Quran is more violent than the Bible found killing and destruction occur more frequently in the Christian texts than the Islamic.

    Investigating whether the Quran really is more violent than its Judeo-Christian counterparts, software engineer Tom Anderson processed the text of the Holy books to find which contained the most violence.

    Further analysis found the Old Testament was more violent than the New Testament, and more than twice as violent as the Quran."CONTINUED
     
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    Old testament? I don't know if stuff like a story about God turning people to salt is the same as the Koran encouraging death of non believers. God "not people" did all sorts of violent stuff in the old testament. How many 100s of years later did Islam come about?
     
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    Re:
    Please rephrase your question. I'm not quite sure what you're asking?

    The whole world has done a pretty good job of exhibiting violent behavior with WW 1 & WW 2 being significant incidents.
     
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    Except that it WAS reported by Haaretz! So what are you talking about?
     
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    Name an example that you think demonstrates pressure from Israel on the US.

    You don't know? Then why the hell did you say this?:
     
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    Israel pressured the US to abrogate the Nuclear Deal with Iran and one of the more noteworthy examples of Israeli influence was AIPAC's pressuring the US to attack Iraq:

    "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."
    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr
    New York Sun in January 2003

    And in a New Yorker profile of Steven Rosen, AIPAC's policy director during the run-up to the war on Iraqi, it was stated that "AIPAC lobbied Congress in favor of the Iraqi war".

    https://www.sott.net/article/158160-And-the-winner-is-the-Israel-lobby


    Re:
    If you want me to answer your innumerable questions, drop the nasty attitude.
     
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    Stalin and Hitler together killed maybe 30 million people.

    both white christians
     
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    Nasty attitude? You mean calling out your lack of evidence that the CIA, "has murdered innocent civilians in Iran & elsewhere?"
     
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    It's not that there is no evidence for my assertions, it's simply that most people already know that the CIA carries out assassinations around the world & I don't always have time to document commonly known facts for you.



    "CIA's License To Kill"
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cias-license-to-kill/



    "Iranian Scientists and U.S. Targeted Killings"
    https://www.cfr.org/blog/iranian-scientists-and-us-targeted-killings

    EXCERPT "Since September 11, the U.S. government has conducted similar operations—outside of the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq—in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, and possibly elsewhere. According to anonymous U.S. officials, drone strikes have killed more than 2,000 militants and approximately fifty noncombatants in Pakistan alone since 2004, although the number of civilian casualties is hotly contested. A few dozen suspected militants have also been killed outside of Pakistan."CONTINUED
     
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    Re:
    It's been so long ago & I've discussed so many issues with so many Posters, I've forgotten what "it" is.
    Please refresh my memory.

    Re:
    “If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”

    Tacitus

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/654209-if-you-would-know-who-controls-you-see-who-you

    I think that Omar is stating the obvious truth as did Cynthia McKinney in October of 2015.
    Since many American Jews oppose AIPAC & the 51 other pro Israel lobbies that manipulate US Policy making, she's' not being "anti Semitic".


    "U S A lawmakers forced to pledge of allegiance to Israel"
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You linked to this article:

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pr...p-peaceful-protestors-outside-aipac-1.5457640

    So are you saying that this wasn't reported?

    I didn't ask about Omar, I asked you, what do you make of this headline? If the NY Times was pro-Israel, then do you suppose that they would've published this article?

    And are you under the impression that in the past or to this day, being voted into Congress by the people isn't enough to enter Congress without pledging allegiance to Israel? Surely you can't be serious. Shouldn't the title of the video be, USA lawmakers ENCOURAGED to pledge allegiance to Israel?


     

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