Public support solidly for gay marriage

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  1. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    GREAT!! Gays are part of society. They are determining the evolving structure.
     
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    Prop. 8... nuff said.
     
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    Prop 8's campaign was full of lies financed by the Mormon Church... nuff said
     
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    Which ones are you or if you are not a homosexual, a homesexual person is not allowed to enjoy or exercise?


    True, many children are born out of wedlock today. (1)But I would disagree that marriage isn't directly related to procreation. The word bastard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard) has been used to describe a child conceived/born outside of marriage. (2-3) But each couple can share the biological equipment needed to procreate.


    (1)Every man and woman has the right to marry the other if the other agrees to it. (2)Jack Johnson (black American) was married to several white woman in the first two decades of the 1900's. I suspect he found them attractive. I'm sure a white man did and would marry a black woman if he found her attractive but I don't have an example to cite-do you think white men were denied the right to marry black women-what law has been repealed for white men to marry black women?

    Happen to know the granddaughter of a White/Native American (married) Union that took place in the late 1800's. Were there laws against that back then?
     
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    huh?


    Procreation is not a prerequisite for marriage.


    I doubt Jack Johnson was legally married in the South. Nice try.
     
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    All of them, since they require a federally recognized marriage license. The federal government does not recognize same sex marriages even from states that allow it.


    And homosexual couples have children that they are raising.




    Look up Loving v Virginia Obviously the right to marry outside your race was not allowed everywhere.

    And my great grandfather (Cherokee) married an Irish woman. They married on a reservation where it was legal.
     
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    What rights (of the 1400 you cite) have you been denied or if you haven't what rights have homosexuals been denied?


    Would you disagree with the statement that it is often hoped for?


    If my citation is inaccurate please point out the error. I was looking at old school pictures from the early 1900's and black and white kids sat together in Mid-West classrooms. This wasn't a research project just looking through a book at the library.

    Were black/white married couples around before the passage of the civil rights act?
     
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    All 1400.

    Hope is not a prerequisite for marriage.

    Did you skip history class?

    Loving v. Virginia
     
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    And what gives you this idea???
     
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    No they are not. The electorate is....gays already have the SAME RIGHTS as everyone else.
     
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    Gays are not part of society? :laughing:
     
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    I believe that most of us were lucky enough to be born with the capacity to learn new things. Some of us however (that would be you) would prefer to ignore medical facts and pretend that their opinion was valid. It's a sad, sad thing.

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
     
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    But unless the state can come up with a reason, which it has not been able to do so far, it can not legally withhold this right from non-related, adult couples...regardless of gender.

    Which is why equal rights is on the horizon.
     
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    If that is true, can I stop paying taxes now?
     
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    Homosexual orientation is inate. Check with any mainstream medical association around the world. ( you won't, I know)

    Homosexuals can reproduce. I, myself have two children and my sister has two as well.

    Silly arguments.
     
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    It is easy to say everything but a little more challenging to be specific. Specifically, what (federal or otherwise) rights are you being denied? Asked because the pursuit is about rights, yes?



    True. But since we are talking about marriage which member of these couples birthed the children? Not trying to be funny just making a point.



    Thank you and I can see the obvious a contrast of skin color. What is the obvious appearance disparity (genetically based) one can discern between a homosexual and a heterosexual?


    Irish? Orange or Green, flavored with a dash of black and tan? Are you for giving Ireland back to the Irish :). This granddaughter I mentioned is an absolutely gorgeous woman.
     
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    Right!!!! You and I both!
     
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    I don't care about Ireland, or their politics. I care about equal rights for Americans. But Many Irish/Native American mixed people are very good looking.
     
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    Homosexuals can reproduce but not with each other, it must be with a member of the opposite sex, yes? Or am I just that far behind?
     
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    PLease quote me saying that. The issue of redefining marriage is the business of the People,and they have spoken CLEARLY THEIR WILL EVERY TIME they hav ehad a chacne to: 33-0.

    Gays just will not stop trying to force the rest of us to live by THEIR PREFERRED DEFINITION FOR MARRIAGE,as opposed to living by the same rules as everyone else.

    They lose...
     
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    And "Lambda Legal Defense" is a full of crap, as "Prof.Martin", who pulled his asinine "14 points of Fascism" out of his own arse, and pretended that they were "facts".
     
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    No one will be forcing you to have a same sex marriage. You on the other hand are forcing us to live by your definition of marriage.
     
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    ok:

    next!
     
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    Overturned........and if anyone tries to put a prop 8 style measure on the ballot again, it won't pass.

    Prop 8 was a fluke. You live in So Cal, you know how it is..
     
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    I see much of the list (posted) appears to be financially based or references the lack of control over another's property or benefits. I understand the desires for another's possessions and/or bennies, sometimes that is a dark side of human nature.

    But why are homosexuals prohibited from willing their property to each other? Why can a woman get a restraining order on a man but homosexuals can't get one on another homosexual? A wife or husband is sometimes prohibited by law/regulation(?) from their dead spouses SS benefits. Is much of this regulation based, set by bureaucrats or is it legislation from Congress signed by the president?

    Do you understand some of the reasons why their is opposition to your desire to change the nature of marriage? Do you think that there should be a limit on the type of relationship that can constitute a marriage? And if you do, how would you prohibit another that you would exclude from using the argument that it is their right to marry a partner of their choosing?
     
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