Public support solidly for gay marriage

So what?.......do you think they should create state constitutional amendments that exclude infertile couples from marrying?

 

Nonsense, many homosexuals are fertility doctors. There behavior frequently leads to conception.​

 

Next time you look at a pretty woman and you feel attracted to her, ask yourself if that is a choice or its biological.

Then look at a handsome guy....see if you get the same biological reaction.

 

It's the responsibility of law makers to insure that the restrictions and requirements of the laws continue to be necessary and fair. Especially as society changes over time. That's why we removed the gender restriction that kept women from voting, despite it being against custom.
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Whats an "attraction" other than a choice you make as to would you or would you not? Some people routinely say "yes" to trying things others say "no" to. Sometimes they find they like it. It does not create some genetic predisposition. "attraction"..."Love" these are both unquantifiables really. You can believe someone when they say they "love" someone, or are "attracted" to them by the basis of their actions...but you couldnt really quantify it otherwise.

 

I agree.

Where we disagree is when we try and pretend that any group that doesnt fit the Established Criteria for Marriage is somehow being treated unfairly. Customs like this have definitions. I dont see any real , tangible reasons to change what Marriage is. Outside of "well some people wish"...i cant see a reason, and honestly that reason isnt enough.

im sure plenty of Single people would love to cash in on some of those 1400 benefits. Im sure people without kids would love to say theyre a family and collect the child credits...unfortunately things are defined already and they simply do not fit. None of them are being treated unfairly, and none of them are being discriminated against.

 

Wait....."homosexual behavior"?........

Anything a homosexual does is "homosexual behavior".....if a lesbian has her eggs artifically inseminated, that is homosexual behavior because a homosexual person is behaving in such a way that pregnancy occurs.

Would you be happy if the doctor the inseminates a lesbian were gay too?....and if the sperm doner was a gay man?......then homosexual behavior would absolutely lead to conception

 

Meaning he agrees it is not a civil rights issue and there is no right to same sex marriage.

 

What a way to convince people to agree with you.........................

 

Gay Marriage just took a harsh beating in elections throughout the country. I doubt this poll has any significance.

 

Both can marry someone of the other sex, both have an equal right. You have no right to marry someone according to their wealth.

 

You only make our point for us. If homosexuality is genetic as some laughably claim why do those people have any reproductive functions since it is impossible for two homosexuals to procreate. Try to explain that.

 

That is exactly what it is and the reasons you listed are ways we encourage and support our heterosexuality. And we grant licenses to use public spaces without regard as to why. I don't have to have a license to rent a hall and give a speech or publish a pamphlet and hand it out or write a letter to the newspaper or post in this forum.

You guys desperation just gets more and more inane.

 

No reading a book is not homosexual behavior, there is nothing homosexual about it. Having sex with a person of the same sex is homosexual behavior.

No it is actually reproducing heterosexually, just artificially so. If a man has a sperm implanted in him he does not create a new life, it still requires a female to supply an egg and carry it. If a woman has another womans unfertilized egg implanted in her it does not create a new life, it still requires the sperm of a man.

They would be acting heterosexually, just artificially so. If a gay man donates his sperm to a lesbian woman does it produce a homosexual child?

 

It took a beating in red(neck) states mostly. To be expected...but not for much longer.

 

Attraction has nothing to do with trying something. Nice cop-out.

 

So what right is that, that is just a contractual agreement.

Depends.

Privileges that come with marriage and ways we encourage it.

Privileges, you know the word "right" is grossly misused. Can government change the fact that SS is transfered to a spouse? Yes it could, therefore it is not a right.

Yes we grant certain legal privileges in order to encourage heterosexual marriage. Does that mean we are required to encourage and sanction homosexuality, nope.

And you claiming the reason we encourage and sanction marriage is because of SS and wills isn't?

They get certain privileges if married under the law which allows for heterosexual marriage and they can find someone to marry them.

Privileges, because it is not in the interest nor benefit of society to encourage and sanction homosexuality.

And who is ignorant about the subject of marriage? Why do you think it exist in the first place?

 

Conception has nothing to do with marriage. NEXT

 

So what?...gay couples CAN raise children of thier own

So what?...gay couples CAN raise children of thier own

So what?...gay couples CAN raise children of thier own.

Shouldn't people who are legally married, and have kids...get tax breaks?

 

This is a right:

Its not a 'contractual agreement'.

Which part of in "lieu of a will, inheritance is automatic" is so hard to understand?

Driving is a privilege. Rights come with marriage.

As Taxpayer points, under marital law, rights can be taken away. So were those rights to begin with?

You really should stop with the disingenuous arguments.

Yes per the 14th Amendment.

The only person that used the phrase “encourage marriage” is you. Your creatures of the mind, is not my problem.

A society should encourage equality for all.

Yet another disingenuous argument of a gay man can marry a woman.

If you want to claim there is no benefit to society, then you can back your claims up with studies. You have none. The creatures of your mind is not my problem.

You, since you keep calling the 1400 rights that come with marriage “privileges”

 

And why should the rights of men and women be different?
Why can't a woman enter into a marriage contract with a woman just like a man can?
That is discrimination based on gender.

 

Because society has the right to determine its fundamental family structure, exceptions aside. nGyas are being DENIED NOTHING by our refusal to let them redefine marriage...NOTHING.

The only reason they seek it is to jam a thumb in the collective eyes of non gay Americans..PERIOD.

Americans most certainly DO NOT SUPPORT THIS, no matter what some nonsense poll says.

33-0, when given the chance to show how they REALLY FEEL ABOUT IT...

 

Society does not have the right to discriminate based on gender.

 

Because the chromosomes that determine the sex of a gay person is a totally different thing than the environmental and possible genetic determinants of sexual orientation.

Not all marriage equality suporters deny the fact that they haven't located a consitant genetic detrminant for sexual orientation. The argument should not be about whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not...it should be focused on whether or not it's a choice.

The most comprehensive and reputable study indicates sexual orientation is determined before puberty based on a combination of physiological and environmental determinants. At any rate...it's not a choice. Only the most uneducated people believe homosexuality is a choice. If it were...I could chose to be...but I'm not attracted to men.

 

Marriage equality supporters don't want to redefine anything. Anti gay supporters want to redefine marriage to exclude gays

I can guarantee almost every gay person who wants to get married would very much love it if you had no opinion at all about it. They would much rather not have anything to do with people like you, than jam a thumb in your eye.

There are 50 states Grok. In 1980 17% of Americans supported gay marriage. Now...well, you know.

Welcome to the wrong side of history Grok. History will look upon people like you the same way we view slave owners, people who didn't want women to vote, and Jim Crowe segregationists.