Russian arrested in Spain 'over US election hacking'

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    well. i hope this thug will be transferred to USA. great to see that free world not that defenseless as Muscovite kleptocracy thought. comments?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39553250
     
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    Lmao at the "hacking the election" bs.

    Still using that phrase despite the fact it was a private company and a private person that may have been hacked. Stopped reading this crap upon reading that.
     
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    And the criminal investigation is still moving forward.
     
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    Leftist nutters.

    In order to target a specific person there has to be evidence.

    There was never any evidence in this "election hacking" nonsense so that is not why this guy was arrested.

    In fact the international warrant had to do with financial crimes, not election ones.

    Idiots, idiots everywhere...
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alleged..... Suspected..... That sums up this entire "Russia hacked the US election" BS we keep hearing about.

    I'm still waiting to hear the reasons WHY the DNC is so corrupt and WHY no news sources will cover the facts, about the DNC, that were exposed by Wikileaks.
     
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  6. litwin

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    yes, indeed...
     
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    Amazing that so many just want to bury their heads in the sand while so many are STILL investigating. I patiently await the outcome when the criminal investigation(s) is ready to make arrests and the criminal case is ready for the courts.
     
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    Oh for cryin' out loud.Sounds more cartoonish than a Jerry Lewis
    vehicle." Hacking that helped Donald Trumps campaign ".
    This was surely bound to happen.Given the amount of time allotted to
    create some Patsy.I'm surprised it took this long.let me guess.
    This Patsy was located but no actual evidence to prove the claim
    in Real Time.This is Electronic Forensics case.
    How did they manage to drum this guy up.
    Like I say.Our Government can surely create patsy's and false
    flags.They can even smooth-over obvious nefarious activity by
    actual Cabinet members as in Sandy Berger { President Clinton's
    National Security Advisor } who was nailed Stealing Classified
    documents from the National Archives in Washington.Berger used
    the excuse he forget he put them in his coat or pants pocket.
    Clinton's Department of Justice also lied to help mitigate
    Berger's Theft of very classified documents.The DOJ claimed
    Berger stole ONLY COPIES of Classified documents.But the House Government
    Reform Committee determined an " unsupervised Berger was given access to
    Classified files of original,uncopied,uninventoried documents. "
    So this Government is easily capable of Hook & Crook.
    Who's kidding who here.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah,we got the DNC and even Podesta { his brother got paid monies
    from Russia } in backstabbing mode and all this MSM cares about is
    painting Trump as some Villain.
     
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    trump supporters no longer have the ability to accept facts. as seen on this site, they refuse to accept the us intelligence services, to the point they back a leader who supports using wmd on women and children
     
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    I guess desperate times call for desperate news stories.
     
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    Accepting what facts? The alleged actions of the suspected party? You might not want to be so quick on trying to smack other people about not accepting what you claim are facts.
     
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    To be fair, it's really hard right now to tell the paid Russian shills from the deluded right-wingers who get their "news" from Russian-friendly sources. I guess the only difference is that one group gets paid and the other one is just full of deluded nutjobs.
     
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    i suggest you brace yourself. every trump supporter continues to make ridiculous rationalization for the russian hacking, where they are taking putins side over us intelligence services.

    this is a full time investigation, it is on official record, yet the trump supporters dismiss it.
     
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    What's the Trump job approval rating these days? And is there still an ongoing investigation by the FBI into potential collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia?

    If you are still confused about the argument in terms of how Russia hacked the election, then I encourage you to start here:

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    Listen, if you need help understanding why the phrase, "hacking the election" is still the common nomenclature, then I encourage you to start here:

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    Summarize it for me. Or can you not?

    I do not care what Trump's approval rating is. These are the same idiots that gave Obama a thumbs up, isn't that enough to discredit their brains on anything political or social?
     
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    It is good to see the allegations of Russian hacking and interference start to turn into real world implications for some of the Russians involved.
     
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    You don't understand how job approval polling works, do you?

    As for summarizing the extent of Russian hacking and involvement, these are the "Key Judgments" from the Report.

    Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

    We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.

    We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments. 

    We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence. 

    Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency. 

    Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals. Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin. 

    Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties. 

    We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign. iii obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks. 

    Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying. 

    Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences. We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their
     
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    Is it just the polling that shows Trump in a negative light that is biased? Or is it Trump's inability to create any positive polling that shows it must be biased?

    Also, Clinton crushed Trump in all three debates. That is really not something that is in dispute. Let's compare the Clinton and Trump answers to the issue of cyber warfare. I'll keep the names off the answers.

    And for the opponent:

     
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    Lemmings.
     
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    In your opinion. In others, she got crushed by Trump. Since Trump won the election, by a landslide, I would say Trump did a lot better than the biased media was leading on. :)

    But everyone is entitled to an opinion. :)
     
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    Lost by 3 million is not an opinion or a landslide.
     
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    Maybe the Russians hacked the red and blue colors of the color wheel chart. It makes about as much sense as any lib on this board lol.
     
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    + 1, our laws are stronger then Muscovite crimes)
     

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