Russian arrested in Spain 'over US election hacking'

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, what a vague article. It does not hint what "hacking" even means other than "suspected" of trying to hack the DNC, and then the author "alleges" this was to help Trump.
     
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  2. vanityofvanitys

    vanityofvanitys Well-Known Member

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    And I COULD NOT CARE LESS.

    It is people like you I do not understand and make me worry about our nation day to day.
    You have a warped idea of truth, a warped idea of what is good and what is evil.
    I can only imagine what kind of theology you maintain.
     
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    :deadhorse:<--- fake Russia story
     
  4. PinkFloyd

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    You must have missed how our elections work here in the United States. Here is an update:

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    That is a landslide.
     
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    Maybe now Hillary will be president!
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Trump supporters dismiss it because not only is there nothing there, but Trump won because Americans wanted a backbone in the White House, not a flimsy old bag that was running on four more years of what we'd just endured for 8 solid years. It had nothing to do with Russians, that's why people laugh at y'all for blaming Russians. One doesn't have to dismiss the investigation to call bullshit on the alleged intelligence. I know I don't need to define alleged or suspected for you.
     
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    She can try again. Will the DNC rig her nomination or have they moved on to another candidate? She might be old and stale for the new "progressive" movement.
     
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    the election was 6 months ago. us intelligence services are on record, an arrest has been made, and there is a congressional investigation. all that, you call no evidence. some day trump supporters are going to have to learn how to put on "big boy" pants and deal with reality
     
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    If I were to rank Trump's margin of victory, using the electoral college (because the popular vote would not work), by way of comparison to every Presidential victory in U.S. History, at what spot would I find this particular "landslide?"
     
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    I would mark it as a complete landslide. The best part is, Trump won and you can't rewrite history by using popular vote. You can try and get the laws changed though. :)
     
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    And if I were to rank Trump's "complete landslide" by comparing it to every Presidential victory in U.S. history, where would it show up?
     
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    He would end up as President of the United States. No matter what you think. :)
     
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    And if I were use the number of electoral votes by which he won the Presidency, and then ranked it against all other U.S. Presidential Victories, what place would I find President Trump's complete landslide?
     
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    Tell it to the FBI ;).
     
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    Did the US intelligence agencies finally inspect the server that was supposedly hacked? Did they release a report of the inspection? What process did they use to determine it was Russian hackers?
     
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    He would end up as President of the United States. No matter what you think.
     
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    So, the nutjobs aren't the ones saying Russia "hacked the election"? It is fairly indicative of nutjobbery when you read the circumstantial evidence articles that look more like a six degrees of Kevin Bacon game, or one of the strongest points of connection is Trump joking that the Russian hackers should release the 30k missing emails, or mislabeling Sessions stating that he didn't meet with Russians as a campaign surrogate while we learn that millions of dollars flowed from Russia to Podesta and Hillary. To me, labeling someone a Russian operative because they may have had some business dealings with the 6th largest economy in the world is a bit nutjobbish as well.
     
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    From your link:
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    Intelligence Community judgments often include two important elements: judgments of how likely it
    is that something has
    happened
    or will happen (using terms such as “likely” or “unlikely”) and
    confidence levels in those judgments (low, moderate, and high) that refer to the evidentiary basis,
    logic and reasoning, and precedents that underpin the judgments.
    Determining Attribution in Cyber Incidents
    The nature of cyberspace makes attribution of cyber operations difficult but not impossible. Every kind of
    cyber operation malicious or not leaves a trail. US Intelligence Community analysts use this
    information, their constantly growing knowledge base o
    f previous events and known malicious actors, and
    their knowledge of how these malicious actors work and the tools that they use, to attempt to trace these
    operations back to their source. In every case, they apply the same tradecraft standards described
    in the
    Analytic Process above.

    Analysts consider a series of questions to assess how the information
    compares
    with
    existing
    knowledge and adjust their confidence in their judgments as appropriate to account for any
    alternative hypotheses and ambiguities.

    An assessment of attribution usually is not a simple statement of who conducted an operation, but
    rather a series of judgments that describe whether it was an isolated incident, who was the likely
    perpetrator
    ,
    that perpetrator’s possible motivations, and whether a foreign government had a role in
    ordering or leading the operation


    I didn't see clarification of when the server was turned over to the FBI? How do the investigating parties perform the above actions without actually inspecting the server?
     
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    i guess you know more tha us intelligence services. fyi, the investigation is ongoing. do you understand that open investigations are not public domain
     
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    Especially a criminal counter-intelligence one................tell it to the dead/disappeared Russians in the last 3 months.;)
     
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    Depends on what 300 "randomly chosen" people are saying today... He's got an A+ in my book though.
     
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    Why don't you go by states won? Or counties won? Or cities won? Or electorates won? Only one of those determine the outcome and Trump beat her in a landslide in all of those departments.
     
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    Great to see this Russian bum Levashov in custody.

    Comey and the boys need to get his ass back here asap, put some HEAT on him and find out everything he knows.

    The American people (unless, of course, you're a deplorable Trumpling) DEMAND to know if Reckless Donnie or any of his shady flunkies COLLUDED with foreign power RUSSIA to hurt Clinton and influence the election outcome.

    Potential TREASON of the highest order...
     
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    That's all the left needs to start finger pointing and squealing "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"
     
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    So, your default position is to assume the most improbable sequence of events is what actually happened with zero public knowledge of any substantial evidence? Just to confirm, your default position is a coordinated effort between Trump/Trump's Team and Putin's cyber army to steal DNC emails and publish them before Trump was nominated and a more than 3 to 1 underdog? Trump's team risked an extremely serious legal charge for almost no chance at any payback, and the big reveal were emails between DNC reps stealing the primary from Bernie?

    Then, Hillary hired DWS to her team, lol. After watching her campaign, you need to investigate if Hillary was in on it.
     

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