Russian warships bearing down on Australia

EXACTLY like that.

We did not have any Japanese Insurgent Groups did we?

AboveAlpha

 

No you don't. But in place of insurgent groups, you created an entire civilisation that hates the US's guts, and is just waiting for a chance to even the score. That kind of resentment doesn't just go away in a few generations.

 

Nah, it shifted the cog of US presence closer to radical islamists so that they were able to lemming themselves into the military rather then find some soft target somewhere else.... and it worked - but you cannot go around telling them that else it defeats the strategy. Afghanistan was for AQ, Iraq was for the homegrown idiot zealots who got excited by AQ's attack on the WTC. Now we have the next generation of idiot muslim radical's who are off to Syria... same old thing, its just being managed better for the US budget. Its easy to blame the US but its ignorant of the realities, at least that's my opinion.

 

I have a LOT of dead Great Uncles and their friends that dies in the Pacific so I don't have much sympathy.

Japan as Germany are both U.S. Military Protectorates.

We WROTE thier constitutions and sculpted their economies...and both are doing quite well.

AboveAlpha

 

Nope, just millions of dead or dying babies, children, women, old people. Yes this ended the war, but the price was high, to high to ever use again. The weapons we have now though make those bombs look like penny bungers (fireworks)

 

For the time being. But for some patience is a virtue, and revenge is a dish best served cold. You can only subjugate people so long using military force.

 

The same non military targets they attack in Iraq and Afghanistan that kill innocent people, and they still keep wondering why these people in the middle east hate their guts and want to kill their citizens in return.

The merry-go-round keeps spinning.

 

At one point less than 200 of us were in Afghanistan and as we painted targets and directed air strikes we killed Ten's of Thousands of the Enemy.

Then some IDIOT POLITICIAN'S decided to go NATION BUILDING in AFGHANISTAN...even though we KNEW Bin Laden was in Pakistan and all the Taliban and what was left of Al-Qaeda went into Waziristan for the winter.

Iraq was idiocy as most of us knew that Saddam was the only thing preventing a Sunni/Shiite Civil War.

AboveAlpha

 

Tell that to the Japanese Population that refused to allow their current Leader from asking the U.S. Military to leave Japan as it was the U.S. Military and Navy that was able to get to areas of Tsunami and Earthquake Sticken Japan that Japanese ER and Military could not.

The U.S. Military is creditied by the Japanese People of saving Ten's of Thousand's of Japanese Lives that would have otherwise perished if the U.S. Navy and Military did not help them.

We are not going anywhere.

AboveAlpha

 

Remove your military, and see how many object.

 

U.S.-Australian trade is tiny:
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c6021.html

We export about $26 billion a year in goods to you guys, and buy about $9 billion.

Given the size of the U.S. economy (nearly $17 trillion), our trade with you is a rounding error.

So no, I don't think the United States is deriving large economic benefits from our alliance with Australia.

 

Since most developed Nations have vested interests in the U.S. Economy our Military is not everything.

But it can be.

AboveAlha

 

You forget all the benefits to the US in the free trade deal + Australia is one of the stupid countries that still buys $ 10's of billions in military junk from the US. I see the benefits in favour of the US, not Australia

 

Let me ask you....if in the future for whatever reason China intended on invading Australia....Who you gonna call?

AboveAlpha

 

Now that Russia & China have their own currency the ruble-yuan; maybe the "vested interest" in the US economy might not be that important, if the US didn't have their military sitting on certain countries door-steps.

You can only subjugate people so long using military force, but that's a lesson the US refuses to learn.

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Why would I call anyone? If we look at the USA today, and we look at China. Is there any real difference between them?

Considering what the USA has done, and is still doing in regards to creating wars and conflicts, I don't put them on a higher moral playing field than China.

 

Any military sales would have been included in that trade figure. For 2014, so far it looks like about $2.2 billion in military sales to Australia. The vast majority of that was an order for some C-17 transport aircraft; the rest was upgrades and supplies for existing equipment.
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales

Meanwhile, here's what trade with the U.S. means to Australia:
https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/us/trade_investment.html

We are your fourth-largest export market for goods, and your biggest market for services.

We are your largest import source for services, and second-largest import source for goods.

We are the largest investor in Australia, and one of the top five sources of visitors (i.e., tourism).

I was pleased to see that Australia is the 12th-largest source of direct foreign investment in the United States, so there's that.

But on balance, Australian-U.S. trade is far more important to Australia than it is to the United States.

 

And the only nation, which used the atomic bomb on civilians, was your country.
People shouldn't forget this but then, the winners do write history.
And the winners of yesterday are the losers of tomorrow.....
Regards

 

If I am PM of AUS I would get China and all other neighboring countries onboard to create really clean energy in Australia.
There might be a future for all of us, but surely not with calls to show off the largest dick....
regards

 

OH PLEASE!!!

You canpost your delusisons all you want here but there is only one reality.

AboveAlpha

 

China would love it.... actually a 4 month gap of a USN aircraft carrier based in Japan is worrying some Japanese;

Japan frets over coming absence of US aircraft carriers
http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Eco...s-over-coming-absence-of-US-aircraft-carriers

Granted some Japanese do not like the presence of the US military, but the USMC is shifting out of Okinawa and that was where the trouble was... being such a small island with such a large US presence - there to defend Japan mind you.

 

I know I'm off-topic but when I was teaching conversational English to newly arrived people in northern Adelaide I used to tell them I'm glad I was born a native English speaker (well I wasn't speaking when I was born, but you know what I mean) because I'm too dumb to have learned it as an adult

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Ah but in the good old days, torturing in the basement eh?

 

Those folks who read the Murdoch rags around the nation must be crapping themselves right now. Yes, the Russians are about to invade us. Why else would they send a couple of ships? Maybe they're thawing out? No, it must be an invasion. It's that Putin, he's sending a fraction of the Russian fleet as a "show of force".

FFS, some people really believe that.

As for invasions. I'm thinking that the last few invasions in the world have been by democratic countries. But that aside, I'm thinking perhaps the invasion urge is finished in human history. After all most invasions are/were about getting stuff. Now countries can get stuff through trade agreements. Imperialism is shot to pieces, it was dealt a serious blow in the First World War and when it reared its ugly, militaristic head in the Second World War it got worked over pretty good. I think it's a thing of the past.

Except if you read Murdoch's rags.

 

You have fallen for the Murdoch press, you are worried and scared far too much, that is one of the reason Abbott has become PM, creation of fearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. You see, it is working....
Regards

 

Hahahaa,, I know where you're coming from. I'm not a native speaker. I was born in Germany and immigrated to Australia when I was four. Learning a foreign language is very difficult, especially as an adult. I've been trying to learn Lao for seven years and haven't progressed beyond 'market speak'.

 

I'll volunteer.

This is why people should get their news from a wide variety of sources and avoid mainstream junk.