Ruth Bader Ginsburg: A Pregnant Woman Is Not a ‘Mother’

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they protect the potential future baby

    when someone asks how old a child is on their one year birthday, they don't say one year 8 months and 5 days

    they would say they have been a mother for 1 year
     
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    "potential future baby" Thanks for the laugh. It is for legal reasons the birth date is used since even doctors don't know the actual day a woman became pregnant.
     
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    Well, you aren’t actually a mother of a fetus as much as you are a host. You don’t become a mother of a baby until the baby is born.
     
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    Oh boy, mixing "the law" and philosophy.
    Bravo
     
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    I love when leftists tell us about science and have no idea that a parasite can't be the same species as the host.
     
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    who is calling a fetus a parasite, it's not a baby, it's a fetus

    the potential mother is creating a baby, she may miscarriage or not
     
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    even in the bible it did not country babies until they were one month old

    "Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16"
     
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    "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations" (Jeremiah 1:5, NIV)

    The Lord Jesus Christ began his incarnation as an embryo, growing into a fetus, infant, child, teenager, and adult: "While they were there, the time came for the baby to born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son" (Luke 2:6-7, NIV)

    "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise" (Exodus 21:22-25, NIV)
     
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    Pregnant women are apparently not mothers, they just have "potential future babies".
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    That was due to infant mortality.

    Interesting you choose the old testament to make your case.
     
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    cause most of the people defending making rape victims have their rapists babies seem to think it's the Christian thing to do
     
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    course he knew him, it was God in the child's womb, per the bible

    god also made man from dirt, and did not consider him alive until he took his first breath of life

    if God's is all knowing and gifts women with babies, why not only place babies where they are wanted, not in rape victims
     
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    Are you claiming Bernie sanders is for gender specific abortions?
     
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    For the same reason we don't execute the children of murderers.
     
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    I thought gender was a social construct.
     
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    Bernie is making the claim, and Chuck Todd helped him get the message out.

    Bernie Sanders: I wouldn't ban abortions based on sex of fetus

    Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders says there should be no restrictions on abortion, including those performed because of the fetus's gender.

    "Do you believe there should be any restrictions on abortion in law?" Chuck Todd asked Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." When Sanders said he didn't, the host got more specific, asking if the Vermont senator was "at all concerned" about people getting abortions because they were unhappy about the sex of the fetus.

    “I wouldn’t use a restriction. That’s an issue that society has got to deal with, and it is of concern,” Sanders said.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bernie-sanders-i-wouldnt-ban-abortions-based-on-sex-of-fetus
     
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    If that's the standard, there are many people in prison on double murder charges that may be looking at drastically reduced sentences. If a fetus isnt a human, you shouldnt be able to charge someone that kills a pregnant woman, or causes her to lose the baby, with a crime against the fetus.
     
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    I don't think RGB thought it through.

    She's only a supreme court justice, why would she do that?
     
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    Which indicates you are not currently a father but will be after the child is born.
    Correct?
     
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    You are going to be a father is future tense, not present.
    People do not consider a zygote a baby.
     
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    I have no problem with you doing business or denying that business as you see fit but it should be equal to all Americans. Not only a special few.
     
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    So you want the state to tell me how to live my life.
    Got it
     
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    Seems silly all around....what's to prevent a woman from just getting an abortion without saying why?
     
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    No I'm father to that child in the womb, I can watch him on an unltrasound, see him react to my voice, feel him kick his mamma. I became the father of that new human life the moment it was created.
     
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    Depends on the state if that thin of an excuse is used.

    In democrat states, they are for things like gender-specific abortion and post-birth abortion.
     

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