Same sex couples will produce biological children together

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  1. AlpinLuke

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    At this point, from a mere biological perspective, it would be better cloning: it would "produce" an individual with the same genetic code of a living [and sane] individual.

    This biological engineering is in any case dangerous:

    * from an ethical viewpoint it's a step towards eugenic [and we well know which "troubles" could eugenic cause to our societies]

    * from a biological viewpoint, similar methods of reproduction [even if technically possible, btw, God gave us the free will so to say that since it's possible God allows it ... it's simply beyond human decency, also to use a stone to kill is technically possible, but God didn't put those stones there to allow us to murder ] present the limit that they cross over the natural process of biological selection.

    That is to say when two mammals of different genders date one each other to reproduce themselves. This is what mammals do in nature and this grant a positive genetic selection.

    To force reproduction by means of biological techs to allow it out of the natural process of genetic selection, means to risk the presence and the transmission of genetic mistakes which are commonly not present in natural reproduction [just because genetic selection allows us to avoid them].
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    it sure as a hell ain't the gays. They do not represent me on any level.

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    are you saying, that 2% of the populations is sane? no, sir, they are an aberration. and anything but sane
     
  3. AlpinLuke

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    Biological processes in nature are there to reduce entropy and to preserve a certain order managing mistakes [genetic mistakes]. Biological entities are "sane" within the limits of a dynamic managing of the genetic errors. This system to manage genetic error is based on the mechanism of the selection. No selection: you increase in an exponential way the risk to transmit more and more mistakes [genetic errors].
     
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    another one of Hitler's dream of creating a super race is duly noted............
     
  5. AlpinLuke

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    There is a basic difference with the approach to reproduction based on natural selection.

    The universe tends to an increasing state of disorder [this is in poor words entropy, the level of disorder], so that we can say that not alive matter tends to an increasing entropy.

    Life shows to contrast this process trying and preserving a certain order [coding it in the DNA]. But physical laws are physical laws and also at genetic level, DNA loses something, is damaged and/or changed [by natural radiation, free radicals - no, not the loonies of the Radical Party! -, viruses ... and so on ...]. So that life tends to reproduce itself in brief time [until individuals are young their genetic code is in good conditions] to transmit DNA coded in the most reliable way possible [with less errors, to make it easy].

    Furthermore, mammals, doing this, activate a natural selection: we tend to fall in love with beautiful individuals [beautiful = sane = good DNA, usually] more than with not beautiful individuals. In the conceptualization of beauty I would put also intelligence, so that we can say that the human mammal looks for "interesting" mates.

    This is natural and free. No institute or authorities tells me with whom I have to fall in love ... This natural choice allows a natural mix of gens [male and female].

    The problem with the mono-gender selection is that it's not exactly based on the same parameters of selection which are at work in the two genders selection. In mono-gender couple there is more mind than biology, so that the result of this selection, in case of mix of the genes of the two individuals is still all to be evaluated.

    Personally, if a gay couple wants to have children, I would prefer adoption of naturally born children
    [even if, politically, I'm not in favor of this]. Sure this wouldn't imply genetic risks.
     
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    Absolutely! Why would you screw up childrens lives like this with genetic defects? And genetic defects are inevitable, as it is highly unlikely this could be done perfectly every time. Let's hope this idea dies quickly.
     
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    Yes, that as well.

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    I won't.
     
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    and let's not forget the need to punish infidels, blasphemy, apostasy... In fact let's just stick to the strictest possible interpretation of Sharia law, right? Do you still wonder why the West views Islamists like you as barbaric medieval savages? Because compared to open-minded, tolerant, humane west they are.
     
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    Nope, just blasphemy.

    I don't care what the debauched West thinks. Anyway, if you knew anything, you'd know it's virtually impossible to be punished for things like fornication, given the strict requirements necessary for a conviction to be made.
     
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    Nice. How about dropping it as well then, no punishment for adultery, premarital sex, gay sex and no punishment for blasphemy either - live and let live, mind your own business.....Muslims don't think twice about insulting Christians, Christ, Jews, Judaism etc, should not the same freedom be granted to those who want to insult the Prophet? It's only fair. Drop all those obsolete medieval prejudices and ancient taboos and come over from the dark side. It's been 1,500 years, it's about time


    maybe you should cause everything you use, possess and do in your everyday life has been invented by the West. Islam may have been progressive in the 7th century but that was about the last time when you made a meaningful contribution to the humanity. Maybe you should care about what the West thinks after all, maybe it will make you smarter and more open-minded? How about that?
     
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    Muslims don't insult Jews or Christians- its the latter that constantly mocks and degrades Islam. Anyway, if you're not a Muslim, you're not expected to follow Islamic rules. You won't be punished for sodomy, so why all the fuss?

    And, no, Muslims should not "drop" God's law just as the Jews and Christians have done. God comes before the personal whims of humans.

    Your inventions are irrelevant when it comes to your nihilistic political philosophies.
     
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    Ok relax,

    Take a breath

    Breathe

    The gays aren't out to get you.
     
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    Muslim nations KILL people because they reject Islam. You cool with that?
     
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    No, why would I be?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because you have many times in the last few days demanded that us Occidentals respect and tolerate Muslim intolerance towards Gays, Muslim Apostates, "women who don't know their place", etc etc..
     
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    Only in your world.
     
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    all religions must, at heart, assault rational thought and brainwash children. If they do not, they will cease to exist.
     

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