Same sex marriage

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by WAN, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are free to try. I am guessing yo would be shocked at the outcome of that vote.
     
  2. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    And this is the philosophy of apathy that kills great societies. The reason our society is declining is because no one cares about society. It is much easier to stay in one's own little world. The problem with that is no one is an island. If it does not affect you now, it will in the future.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
  4. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    You mean as shocked as those were at the Brexit vote? How about Trump being elected? So much for polls.
     
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So gay people are making the society decline?

    1. Gay people are normal. They just sleep with people you don't. Not a big deal
    2. None of my business who you go home with at night or hold hands with in the day
     
  6. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Nope. It is not gay people. It is those who are apathetic and do not care about society. The bubble people.
     
  7. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn't shocked by either. It isn't about polls. Making citizens "illegal" is not something I would expect a lot of libertarians on the right would support, and your side kind of needs them.
     
  8. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Business owners should either be allowed to not participate in it or it should be reversed. I'd also support your position.
     
  9. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So you think serial killers should be accepted?

    My side? We independents do not need any group. We are the ones that decide elections.
     
  10. kreo

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    The thought about same sex "marriage" is very simple.
    Marriage, from the government perspective is a set of benefits that government provides to heterosexual couples.
    All we have to do is to ask ourselves, what is the purpose of providing benefits to heterosexual couple?
    The answer is obvious, we as a society provide benefits to heterosexual couples in exchange of numerous laws and regulations that we impose on man and woman.
    since relationship between man and woman requires government involvement it is not a private matter, if it is not private matter the society is obligated to provide benefits.

    On the other hand, homosexuality is a STRICTLY private activity, and we as a society has nothing to do with it, there is no need to regulate gay sex whatsoever.
    If homosexuality and relationship between two men or women has nothing to do with a government, we SHOULD not provide ANY kind of benefits.

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    Homosexuality is none of our business, therefore no government benefits should be allowed.
    Plain and simple.
     
  11. sec

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    If Johnny wants to stick jimmy into places where it wasn't intended then so be it

    The problem is when governments step in and try and treat sexual deviancies as being akin to race.
     
  12. ProgressivePatriot

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    I find it hard to believe that 18 months after Obergefell, and more than a dozen years since same sex marriage came to the first states, people are still blathering and bleating about it.

    The courts have been clear that an appeal to tradition-which is what you're doing here- is not sufficient to deny rights to a group. The states have failed miserably at all levels of litigation to come up with a compelling state interest or even a rational basis for the laws restricting marriage to a man and a woman. Deal with it.

    My advise to you is, since you feel this way-DO NOT under any circumstances- go and get gay married.

    Civil unions are not equal to marriage. They are not recognized by the federal government and do not convey the same social status as marriage.

    Good day.
     
  13. doombug

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    It is because liberal progressives pushed it on society instead of making a case that could win hearts and minds. Do not be surprised if the decision is reversed and a severe backlash happens. This is the result of pushing an agenda. Why are libs so intellectually lazy?
     
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    An independent who doesn't vote for democrats no doubt. We can't outlaw gay people. We have no where to ship them to. No other country can be forced to take all the gays (though I imagine may would welcome them).
     
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    I have a feeling we will survive just fine.

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    Jimmy sticks Monica into places not intended for. Do we revoke their marriage
     
  16. logical1

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    Whe word marriage is between a man and a woman. It has been that way for centuries. I suggest homosexuals come up with their own word.
     
  17. doombug

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    You do not have to outlaw gays but there is no need to accept homosexuality as a normal behavior.
     
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    The Romans believed the same. Apathy is one of the worst things for a society. History shows when humans get comfortable that is when the decline starts. Not wanting to deal with or question these issues is simple intellectual laziness.
     
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    What you call "decline" others call "normal".
     
  20. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    I am sure many thought the Titanic was not sinking up until the last moment. Then it was too late.
     
  21. logical1

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    One reason the many dont care much for homosexuals is the fact one brought AIDS into this country.
     
  22. ArmySoldier

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    I usually issue my soldiers a "hurt feelings report" when they are really over dramatic, but unfortunately I am not at the office.
     
  23. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    No need. I see you have ran out of steam. Easy to do in a bubble. I do not expect much of an exchange from folks who are intellectually lazy.
     
  24. ArmySoldier

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    What steam? I don't care who marries who. It's very simple.
     
  25. DarkDaimon

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    Pray tell, what things in society are affected by accepting homosexuality?
     

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