Sharyl Atkisson on Spygate: Sure looks like FBI's operation against Trump was political

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Coming? So feels, not fact still. Got it.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Wanting evidence is not a syndrome.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. Mifsud being there and PLANTING the "Russian email " LIE, was just a "coincidence".
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sit tight. I have no problem waiting to see what turns up next.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Evidence of this is where exactly? Oh that's right, that's just your "feeling." LOL
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. Especially coming from an individual who wants the Mueller investigation to end because he is not patient.
     
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    What do you call trying to create evidence when none exists?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you had not problem waiting for evidence, you would wait for evidence. You do have a problem waiting, which is why you are making baseless accusations first and hope that the evidence comes later.
     
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    I call that what Trump and his followers are doing.
     
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    Given that the Obama Deep State has admitted spying on Trump it should be presumed that every significant critic of Obama/HRC and their ilk was targeted by secret police/spy agencies.
     
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    Tell that BS to Mark Penn the Clintoncrat.


    Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all....


    The “deep state” is in a deep state of desperation. With little time left before the Justice Department inspector general’s report becomes public, and with special counsel Robert Mueller having failed to bring down Donald Trump after a year of trying, they know a reckoning is coming.

    At this point, there is little doubt that the highest echelons of the FBI and the Justice Department broke their own rules to end the Hillary “matter,” but we can expect the inspector general to document what was done or, more pointedly, not done. It is hard to see how a yearlong investigation of this won’t come down hard on former FBI Director James and perhaps even former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who definitely wasn’t playing mahjong in a secret “no aides allowed” meeting with former President Clinton on a Phoenix airport tarmac.

    With this report on the way and congressional investigators beginning to zero in on the lack of hard, verified evidence for starting the Trump probe, current and former intelligence and Justice Department officials are dumping everything they can think of to save their reputations.

    With this report on the way and congressional investigators beginning to zero in on the lack of hard, verified evidence for starting the Trump probe, current and former intelligence and Justice Department officials are dumping everything they can think of to save their reputations.

    But it is backfiring. They started by telling the story of Alexander Downer, an Australian diplomat, as having remembered a bar conversation with George Papadopoulos a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign. But how did the FBI know they should talk to him? That’s left out of their narrative. Downer’s signature appears on a $25 million contribution to the Clinton Foundation. You don’t need much imagination to figure that he was close with Clinton Foundation operatives who relayed information to the State Department, which then called the FBI to complete the loop. This wasn’t intelligence. It was likely opposition research from the start.

    In no way would a fourth-hand report from a Maltese professor justify wholesale targeting of four or five members of the Trump campaign. It took Christopher Steele, with his funding concealed through false campaign filings, to be incredibly successful at creating a vast echo chamber around his unverified, fanciful dossier, bouncing it back and forth between the press and the FBI so it appeared that there were multiple sources all coming to the same conclusion.

    Time and time again, investigators came up empty. Even several sting operations with an FBI spy we just learned about failed to produce a DeLorean-like video with cash on the table. But rather than close the probe, the deep state just expanded it. All they had were a few isolated contacts with Russians and absolutely nothing related to Trump himself, yet they pressed forward. Egged on by Steele, they simply believed Trump and his team must be dirty. They just needed to dig deep enough.

    Perhaps the murkiest event in the timeline is Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointment of a special counsel after he personally recommended Comey’s firing in blistering terms. With Attorney General Jeff Sessionsshoved out of the way, Rosenstein and Mueller then ignored their own conflicts and took charge anyway. Rosenstein is a fact witness, and Mueller is a friend of Comey, disqualifying them both.....snip~


    http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all
     
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    Yaawwwwwwn
     
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    Try reading the thread next time....that way those mean ole Conservatives wont be able to show how easy it is to take advantage of you. Just sayin.
     
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    Fantasy
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Tell you what, if you are saying it has proof that this was all the result of an Obama/FBI plant, I'm all ears. Let's read it. If it is just another opinion piece with no evidence, I'm not interested.
     
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    You should wake up.

    "In no way would a fourth-hand report from a Maltese professor justify wholesale targeting of four or five members of the Trump campaign. It took Christopher Steele, with his funding concealed through false campaign filings, to be incredibly successful at creating a vast echo chamber around his unverified, fanciful dossier, bouncing it back and forth between the press and the FBI so it appeared that there were multiple sources all coming to the same conclusion.

    Time and time again, investigators came up empty. Even several sting operations with an ***FBI spy*** we just learned about failed to produce a Delorean-like video with cash on the table. Rather than close the investigation, however, the deep state just expanded it. All they had were a few isolated contacts with Russians and absolutely nothing related to Trump himself and, yet, they pressed forward. Egged on by Steele, they simply believed Trump and his team must be dirty — they just needed to dig deep enough to find it."
    THE HILL, Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all, BY MARK PENN, 05/20/18. (*** mine)
    http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all
     
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    If the plant was in 2016.....and the FBI DOJ falls under the BO Peep Administration. Then who else does it fall under?
     
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    And your evidence of a planted evidence or entrapment or anything like that? Facts this time, not just feels?
     
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    How do you do that when they didn't start any investigation over Russian Collusion?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    They made up stuff like "Spygate" and imaginary planting of evidence and entrapment. Meanwhile, the Russia investigation started over Russian assets reaching out to the Trump campaign with offers to collude and members of the Trump team pursuing the offer.
     
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    Mollie Hemingway of the Federalist summed it up perfectly Thursday in an appearance on Tucker Carlson Tonight:

    Everyone knows that there was a spy and in fact people who were involved in the spying are admitting there’s a spy. They’re saying, though, because the government term is “human intelligence informant” or something like that that therefore it’s not a spy. Whereas normal Americans understand when you are gathering information on someone surreptitiously, that’s the common definition of spying. And more than that, that’s just a stunning revelation that this was happening under the previous administration that there would be this kind of surveillance, not just at least one human intelligence informant but also wiretaps, national security letters which are how can you secretly get a subpoena and who knows what else is going on like widespread spying involving multiple people in the Trump campaign and we still don’t really know what’s going on because they’re trying to fight answering.

    That is the simple truth that Schiff, the Democrats, and the media are trying — and failing — to hide from the public.
     
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    Remember Evelyn Farkas?



    UPDATE: President Obama’s Own Defense Deputy Admits Obama White House Spied on Candidate/President-Elect Trump…
    Sometimes when a person is deep inside an echo-chamber of like-minded ideologues, they might not realize what they’re saying is rather revealing to those on the outside. That’s the set up for former Obama administration official Evelyn Farkas (Deputy Asst. Secretary of Defense) appearing on MSNBC and admitting first hand knowledge the Obama administration spied on candidate and president-elect Donald Trump’s transition team to gather “intelligence” for political use.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ouse-spied-on-candidatepresident-elect-trump/
     
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    You will need to do better than that. Again, do read whats already posted. As anything after the fact is warranted.


    How The Code Name ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Undermines The FBI’s Russia Story
    The paper of record has apparently joined a campaign, spearheaded by government and political operatives, to minimize Christopher Steele’s role in the Russia investigation.


    The New York Times’ 4,000-word report last week on the Federal Bureau of Investigation probe of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign’s possible ties to Russia revealed for the first time that the investigation was called “Crossfire Hurricane.”

    After an October news report showed his dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee, facts that further challenged the credibility of Steele’s research, the FBI investigation’s origin story shifted.

    Further reinforcement of the new origin story came from congressional Democrats. A January 29 memo written by House Intelligence Committee minority staff under ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff further distances Steele from the opening of the investigation. “Christopher Steele’s raw reporting did not inform the FBI’s decision to initiate its counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016. In fact, the FBI’s closely-held investigative team only received Steele’s reporting in mid-September.”

    The code name “Crossfire Hurricane” is further evidence that the FBI’s cover story is absurd. A reference to a movie about a British spy evading Russian spies behind enemy lines suggests the Steele dossier was always the core of the bureau’s investigation into the Trump campaign.

    The damage done to the American press is equally large. Since the November 2016 presidential election, a financially imperiled media industry gambled its remaining prestige on Russiagate. Yet after nearly a year and a half filled with thousands of stories feeding the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy, last week still represented a landmark moment in American journalism. The New York Times, which proudly published the Pentagon Papers, provided cover for an espionage operation against a presidential campaign.

    These questions are sure to be asked. What we know already is that the Times reporters did not ask them, because they do not bother to indicate that the officials interviewed for the story had declined to answer. That they did not ask these questions is evidence the Times is no longer a newspaper that sees its job as reporting the truth or holding high government officials responsible for their crimes.....snip~

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/25/code-name-crossfire-hurricane-evidence-fbis-russia-cover-story/
     
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    Trump's fake spy diversion has fizzled.
     
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    Everything you are talking about happened well after Russian assets reached out to the campaign, campaign members pursued, and the FBI was informed of those activities. Again: you guys really, really need to work on your timelines.
     
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