Sharyl Atkisson on Spygate: Sure looks like FBI's operation against Trump was political

No, we're chuckling about it, being it's one of the more bizarre fake news stories you've tried to pass off.

That may make some kind of sense to your fellow cultists, in the same way that Scientology dogma makes sense to Scientologists, but to normal people, it's just bizarre babbling with no connection to reality.

 

Uhh... there Einstein, after 2 years of investigation, an army of witch hunters with unlimited budgets, illegal spying and illegal spies, you still can't even furnish the CFR number for the crime for which you have courtroom level probable cause to believe Trump violated.

How The Ridiculously Named ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Undermines The FBI’s Russia Story

Helping Spin a New Origin Story
The Times has joined the campaign, spearheaded by the Department of Justice, FBI, and political operatives pushing the Trump-Russia collusion story, to minimize Steele’s role in the Russia investigation.

After it was shown that his dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and Democrat National Committee, facts that further challenged the crumbling credibility of Steele’s research, the FBI investigation’s origin story shifted.

Stefan Halper is a former classmate of Bill Clinton’s at Oxford University.

Halper role seems like an agent provocateur, whose job was to ask leading questions to get Trump campaign advisers to say things that would corroborate—or seem to corroborate—evidence that the bureau believed it already had in hand.

Halper met with at least three Trump campaign advisers: Sam Clovis, Page, and George Papadopoulos. The latter two he met with in London, where Halper had reason to feel comfortable operating.

Halper’s close contacts in the intelligence world weren’t limited to the CIA. They also include foreign intelligence officials like Richard Dearlove, the former head of the United Kingdom’s foreign intelligence service, MI6. According to a Washington Times report, Halper and Dearlove are partners in a UK consulting firm, Cambridge Security Initiative.

Dearlove is also close to Steele. According to the Washington Post, Dearlove met with Steele in the early fall of 2016, when his former charge shared his “worries” about what he’d found on the Trump campaign and “asked for his guidance.”

London was therefore the perfect place for Halper to spring a trap — outside the direct purview of the FBI, but on territory where he knew he could operate safely. It appears Halper’s job was to induce inexperienced Trump campaign figures to say things that corroborated the 35-page series of memos written by Steele—the centerpiece of the Russiagate investigation—in order to license a broader campaign of government spying against Trump and his associates in the middle of a presidential election.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/25/code-name-crossfire-hurricane-evidence-fbis-russia-cover-story/

 

I have no idea. I believe Hillary and Huma, also, still have security clearances.

 

This doesn't prove anything. All of it is a collection of dubious allegations, and ginned up guilt by assiciation claims.

Just because a dubious right wing blog claims that the New York Times "joined the campaign" does not mean that they did, or that there was even a campaign at all.

The right wing noise machine keeps getting more shrill and ridiculous with each week. Trump's failed demand gambit this week represents a new2 level of noise.

For any of this idiotic nonsense to be halfway true, one has to believe that there was an active campaign to discredit Trump even before he became a candidate.

Equally ridiculous is the obvious fact that were any of this actually true, the "spies" would have deployed what they learned in order to insure that
Trump lost.

You can highlight things in red all day long if it makes you feel any better. But your suggestion that people became alarmed about the Trump campaign for no legitimate reason is false.

Of course, the entire bogus narrative is intended to provide you with an excuse to ignore the obvious and well known facts.

As I have pointed out many times before, the idea that the "narrative changed after it was shown that the Clinton campaign " paid for the "dossier" is also false. This claim was invented by right wing media. In fact, nearly all Washington assumed that the "dossier" was opposition research , and many in the press had the document. The idea that anyone changed their story was made up by the right wing noise machine because they have pushed, and are continuing to push the false narrqative that the "dossier" was the basis of the investigation. This is BS, as everyone who doesn't think Fox is news, knows that.

 

And you've got crap to support the fiendish claim that Trump engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russians to cheat in the 2016 election. But, we do know that the FBI/DOJ/Obama Administration/Crapper and Comrade Brennan, lied and illegally spied on the Trump campaign as well as illegally fixed Hillary Espionage investigation, order to fix the 2016 election.

Spies, like those the corrupt Deep State deployed against Trump at the bidding of Obama are often sociopaths: shrewd, self-aware enough to know that, in undercover work, bad character, mendacity, and survival instincts are tools of the trade. Not many Mother Teresas can infiltrate hostile foreign powers, drug cartels, and organized-crime networks. They are well-known as “snitch,” “rat,” “Judas,” "scumbag.”

In the Trump–Russia affair, officials of the Obama-era intelligence agencies suggest that there are grounds to believe that the Trump campaign was in a traitorous conspiracy with the Kremlin. What grounds? They’d rather not say. You’ll just have to trust them as well-meaning, non-partisan pros who can’t be expected to divulge methods and sources.

Countering that are not only Trump fans but growing ranks of security-state skeptics. The Obama administration blatantly politicized the government’s intelligence and law-enforcement apparatus. Their Chicken Little shrieks that public disclosure of FISA warrants and texts between FBI agents would imperil security have proven overblown at best (and, in some instances, to be cynical attempts to hide embarrassing facts). “Trust us” is not cutting it anymore.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...cized-intelligence-law-enforcement-apparatus/

 

It is probably time to fix that.

 

Halper was paid over $1 million by the Obama Adm.

We are assuredly just scratching the surface of this outrage....so far...

 

Just some guy in the neighborhood.

 

Jarrett is the one who signed off on the Bin Laden raid, so that sounds about right.

 

Yeah...like Mifsud and Downer...just " happened along"....

Meanwhile the Hillary Campaign PAYING $ MILLIONS to DIRECTLY INVOLVED RUSSIAN INFLUENCE IN THE ELECTION = "nothing to see here", or "opposition research is legal, except from foreign...oh wait a minute!!.."

 

And you have to wonder how much Russia/MI-6 paid Halper.
I think they call that Double Dipping - or something similar in the spy biz.

 

How much did Downer donate to The Clintons? And has Downer ever been a spy?
Surely not!

 

If so, if was for his victim's "own good", I'm sure.

 

That's why, historically, spies have been executed after they are caught.

Espionage (colloquially, spying) is the obtaining of secret or confidential information without the permission of the holder of the information. Spies help agencies uncover secret information.[1] Any individual or spy ring (a cooperating group of spies), in the service of a government, company or independent operation, can commit espionage. The practice is clandestine, as it is by definition unwelcome and in many cases ***illegal and punishable by law***.

One of the most effective ways to gather data and information about the enemy (or potential enemy) is by infiltrating the enemy's ranks. This is the job of the spy (espionage agent). (*** mine)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage

 

Citing right wing blogs which had printed false and misleading claims about the Trump Russia scandal does not help you push the lies you are still pushing.

Then there's this absolutely absurd and false claim:

"In the Trump–Russia affair, officials of the Obama-era intelligence agencies suggest that there are grounds to believe that the Trump campaign was in a traitorous conspiracy with the Kremlin. What grounds?"

Plenty, and a lot of it is in the public record. I have no doubt that there will be a lot more before its over.

I won't bother with the empty drivel about the personality traits of spies. It's both silly and totally irrelvant, as the made up Trump assertion about "spies" crashed and burned on Thursday.

Contrary to your claim we have a lot of publicly available evidence that people in the Trump campaign routinely talked to Russian intelligence operatives throughout the campaign. We also have the words of Donald Trump Jr thhat they were anxious and enthusiastic about the idea of colluding with the Russians. We also know, as of last week, that they met with the UAE for the same purpose. We know as a matter of documented fact that the quid pro was doing away with the sanctions Congress passed in reaction to Russian's invasion of the Ukraine. This was the subject of conversations between Michael Flynn (who was not lied about as you have falsely claimed) and the Russian ambassador, Sergi Kislyak. We also know that the Trump campaign tried not once, but twice, to engineer a secret back channel of communication between the campaign and Russian intelligence once the election was over. Once, but the direct suggestion of Jared Kushner, intercepted by routine wiretap of the Russian ambassador. Twice, via a odd meeting set up in the Saychelle Islands between the mercenary Erik Prince, a couple of GOP fixers connected to Trump and Russian intelligence operatives. We also know that one of the people that Trump identified as a "Senior Foreign Policy Advisor" had once been recruited by Russian intelligence and has been a person of interest to the FBI. We know that another Trump "Foreign Policy Advisor" met with Russian cutouts within two weeks of being identified by Trump as his man, and the he was made aware that the Russians posessed the DNC e-mails that were later fed to Wikileaks who played the useful idiot to the Russians effort.

Of course, we also know that Jared Kushner has been going around peddling his influence to everyone and anyone who might bail him out of his collasally bad deal at 666 Fifth.

And we know that Michael Cohen has been doing the same thing, peddling his access to the President in return for cash, cash that was paid by large corporations and by foreign nationals.

Trump. himself, has been well known to the Russians for over a decade. His record as a real estate developer and a business man is so shady and so poor that the Brighton Beach crowd were the only people who would still participate in a Trump deal. Since Russians, and Russian afiliated interests and money launderers are the only people who would lend Trump money for over a decade, they have lot of experience with Trump and know that he doesn't honor his agreements or pay his bills. (of course, this is also why the President of the United States cannot get top flight lawyers, either).

Frankly, I think that these connections are the ones that Trump fears the most. One because the long trail of money laundering, fraud, and dirty dealing might get exposed to the public as part of public hearings or the investigation itself. In this effort, the Republicans have been a great help to Trump, by not holding any public hearings.

Of course the other reason is that the investigation might bring the entire house of cards that is Trump's business interests down. Trump cares a lot more about this, than he does about being President. After all, he still runs his real estate business from the White House and still is the principal legal beneficiary of the operation, a straight up violation of federal law, something that hte GOP is busy looking away from.

There is no evidence, beyond the loud false assertions of the right wing noise machine, that any laws were violated in uncovering all this stuff. Indeed, the Trump people were so arrogant and irresesponsible that they left a wide trail.

As I have pointed out many times before, the thrust of the right wing noise campaign with regard to the Trump Russia scandal has focued entirely on two things. One, is to distract the audience into believing that the investigations are the issue. None of the stuff that I listed has been discredited. Trump has made a ritual of bellowing that each new revalation is "fake news" (by now a sure indication that it is not fake at all), but not one of these revalations has ever been discredited. Indeed, in most cases, we have learned more subsequently and that revelations in the Trump issue have ofen led to more revalations.
You have not one shred of evidence to support any of your claims.

Trump's noisy and beliggerant attempts to bully the Justice Department into handing over evidence of his made up claims fell flat on its fact.

You and your fellow extremists seem determined to ignore that fact. Trump spent a week ginning this BS up, and hiis lickspittle toady in Congress, Devin Nunes dutifully trooped down the hill to the Justice Department to be briefed. When the briefing was over, Nunes and has allies skuked away, avoiding the television cameras, while Adam Schiff delevered the coup de grace to the latest Trump noise campaign.

 

Nothing, as far as I am aware. And no.

 

This is a made up story pushed by a right wing blog, one with a long history of posting made up stories designed to push a noise machine narrative. This is no different.

I keep wondering why you keep falling for these scams. You don't seem to be get enough of this garbage, repeatedly trying to pass these lies off as fact.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...ews-says-obama-paid-informant-trump-russia-p/

 

Andrew C. McCarthy is the former federal prosecutor who put the Blind Sheik and several of his collaborators behind bars in the first World Trade Center bombing.

Big deal. That's not illegal and certainly does not justify illegally spying on an American Presidential Campaign, the blizzard of lies from the DOJ/FBI/Crapper and Comrade Brennan, the refusal of the FBI/DOJ to produce documents to Congress and The Court, when not only is the President not asserting privilege, he has ordered them to comply! These crooks are standing on an island, the Constitution Waves that are assaulting their illegal stance are only growing as they resist Lawful Constitutional Oversight, We will prevail and we will get to the very bottom of this mass of felonies committed by the Crooked Obama Administration.

BOTH FBI Agents reported than Flynn did NOT lie, which Jim Comey has repeatedly lied about. Do you have any sense of just how tired of all these FBI lies the American People are?

Both Agents memorialized their ambush interview with the National Security Advisor with 302's which is the ONLY record the FBI has of the interview other than direct testimony from the interviewing agents. And they have the transcript of the intercepted phone call, which Dirty Bob claims Flynn lied about.

A full year ago, Senator Grassley's committee requested:

• Both Agent's 302's
• The Transcript of the phone call
• And the remaining undisgraced FBI agent before his committee to testify.

If it's not quickly apparent after comparing those three pieces of evidence and the Agents testimony, just what in the living hell Dirty Bob is claiming Flynn lied about, Dirty Bob has real problems. And DOJ/FBI are fighting producing this evidence to Grassley tooth and nail, but they can't assert Executive Branch Privilege, because Trump has ordered them to comply!

Let me tell you how this ends... The agent WILL appear before The Senate Committee with this evidence. There simply are no constitutional grounds for refusal. And the more of a fuss the FBI and Rat Faced Rosenstein kick up before they give in to the inevitable, the larger the number of the American People who will be turning in to see if Dirty Bob Mueller is a felon and a bald faced liar.

And, if that agent testifies that Dirty Peter Stzok and lying Andy McCabe falsified 302's to railroad Flynn and HIS SON and threatened them with prison time, uh, The American People are going to demand long prison terms for all involved.

In OUR system, the prosecutors are referred to as “the government,” but they swell with pride at any opportunity to tell you they actually represent “the People of the United States of America.” The defense can have its vaunted presumption of innocence; the unstated presumption in a criminal trial is that the prosecutor is the guy in the white hat. He’s the earnest public servant, just trying to show what really happened — he’s not there to sow doubt, to trick you like those sharks over at the defense table. And if, by reputation and manner, he manages to convince the judge and the jury of his probity and competence, the prosecutor gets to set the narrative.

In this case, however, we have

• Crapper caught lying
• Crooked Hillary clearly lying
• Sharon Mills lying,
• Huma lying,
• Loretta Lynch Lying
• Comrade Brennan Lying
• Jim Comey lying
• Andy McCabe Lying
• Rat-Faced Rosenstein obstructing Congress

And what ALL should be the "good guys" are starting to look like a nest of lying psychopaths to The American People.

In the Trump–Russia affair, officials of the Obama-era intelligence agencies suggest that there are grounds to believe that the Trump campaign was in a traitorous conspiracy with the Kremlin. What grounds? They’d rather not say. You’ll just have to trust them as well-meaning, non-partisan pros who can’t be expected to divulge methods and sources.

But, we've caught them red-handed using redactions, which they claimed were for "National Security!" when actually they were illegally used to cover up embarrassing information, like that Lying Andy McCabe spent $70k for a conference table. In other words, yet again, THEY LIED.

In the face of this ongoing and unrelenting blizzard of lies from the security-state, in response, as is quite reasonable, we also have growing ranks of security-state skeptics among The American People. The Obama administration blatantly politicized the government’s intelligence and law-enforcement apparatus. Their Chicken Little shrieks that public disclosure of FISA warrants and texts between FBI agents would imperil security have proven overblown at best and cynical attempts to hide embarrassing facts in other instances. “Trust us” is not cutting it anymore.

In the end, it is not about who the spies are. It is about why they were spying. In our democratic republic, there is an important norm against an incumbent administration’s use of government’s enormous intelligence-gathering capabilities to interfere in an election. To justify disregarding that norm would require strong evidence of egregious wrongdoing. Enough bobbing and weaving, and enough dueling tweets. Let’s see the evidence.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...cized-intelligence-law-enforcement-apparatus/

 

Downer is a Clinton flunky. Is he also a spy?

"The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show.

Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer’s role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry’s website."
THE HILL, Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI’s Russia-probe has tie to Clintons
BY JOHN SOLOMON AND ALISON SPANN - 03/05/18.
http://thehill.com/376858-australia...rompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons

 

It is time to bust up the Obama/Clinton spy ring. Here is another RW source for Tom.

“That all of these officials committed major crimes can hardly be disputed. In January, CNN reported that Flynn’s calls with the Russians “were captured by routine U.S. eavesdropping targeting the Russian diplomats.” That means that the contents of those calls were “obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of [a] foreign government,” which in turn means that anyone who discloses them — or reports them to the public — is guilty of a felony under the statute.”
THE INTERCEPT, The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies, By, Glenn Greenwald, February 14 2017.
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

 

Is the Washington Post..as RIGHT WING BLOG? Are GOVERNMENT RECORDS, right wing blogs?

Politifact CAUGHT LYING...AGAIN:

"Since 2012, Halper has had contracts with the Defense Department, working for a Pentagon think tank called the Office of Net Assessment. According to federal records, ONA has paid Halper more than $1 million for research and development in the social sciences and humanities."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ec51f217e7fc

The Obama Adm. has paid Halper over $1 millon as I said; and I'm sure it was via the Obama Pentagon for "research and development in the social sciences and humanities."


Der..

 

If you're going to endorse what one of your Trumpster fellow travellers posted, it would be helpful if you didn't directly contradict it.

But then, the purpose of these screeds is to manufacture a distraction. The meme doesn't even try to debunk or deny any of the major revalations in the TRump Russia scandal. It's intent is to maufacture an excuse for ignoring the evidence.

The most recent crescendo in that ongoing campaign was Trump'd bellicose false claims about "spies" and his demands that the GOP be briefed by the Justice Department.

This effort fell flat. The Justice Department didn't give Nunes anything he could parade on Sean Hannity, so he slunk away.

 

The claim is that Clinton paid him. Several Trumpsters have promoted that claim on this forum.

This does NOT confirm that false claim.

 

The post you are responding to states: The Obama Adm. has paid Halper over $1
million.

You guys are fooling no ONE!


Poll: Despite Conspiracy Media’s Best Efforts – 59% of Americans Know Dirty Bob Mueller Probe Is a Far Left Witch Hunt

 

LOL! You think Greenwald is a "Trumpster fellow traveller"? Read again, he is actually an apologist for the spies and other felons. But he does call felons felons.

THE INTERCEPT, The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies, By, Glenn Greenwald, February 14 2017.
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

Here is a little more on DP/FBI/CIA spies, election rigging and assorted felonies:

"In no way would a fourth-hand report from a Maltese professor justify wholesale targeting of four or five members of the Trump campaign. It took Christopher Steele, with his funding concealed through false campaign filings, to be incredibly successful at creating a vast echo chamber around his unverified, fanciful dossier, bouncing it back and forth between the press and the FBI so it appeared that there were multiple sources all coming to the same conclusion.

Time and time again, investigators came up empty. Even several sting operations with an FBI spy we just learned about failed to produce a Delorean-like video with cash on the table. Rather than close the investigation, however, the deep state just expanded it. All they had were a few isolated contacts with Russians and absolutely nothing related to Trump himself and, yet, they pressed forward. Egged on by Steele, they simply believed Trump and his team must be dirty — they just needed to dig deep enough to find it."
THE HILL, Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all, BY MARK PENN, 05/20/18.
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

"In no way would a fourth-hand report from a Maltese professor justify wholesale targeting of four or five members of the Trump campaign. It took Christopher Steele, with his funding concealed through false campaign filings, to be incredibly successful at creating a vast echo chamber around his unverified, fanciful dossier, bouncing it back and forth between the press and the FBI so it appeared that there were multiple sources all coming to the same conclusion.

Time and time again, investigators came up empty. Even several sting operations with an FBI spy we just learned about failed to produce a Delorean-like video with cash on the table. Rather than close the investigation, however, the deep state just expanded it. All they had were a few isolated contacts with Russians and absolutely nothing related to Trump himself and, yet, they pressed forward. Egged on by Steele, they simply believed Trump and his team must be dirty — they just needed to dig deep enough to find it."
THE HILL, Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all, BY MARK PENN, 05/20/18.
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

Is Mark Penn a "Trumpster fellow traveller"?