Should Israel have been created in Germany?

but, the Lemba are obviously very intelligent, as they believe they are descended from white Jews:

"According to Lemba oral tradition, their male ancestry originally comprised several male "white people from over the sea” who came to southeast Africa from a country which boasted large cities in order to obtain gold"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba_people#Lemba_traditions_and_culture

 

Mah, Italian Jews are not harassed by Israelis about returning to the Land of Canaan, as for I know. So that active promotion is may be related only to some Israeli environments [where they appreciate more EU Jews since they are wealthy than the African ones], but I cannot generalize about this.

An other aspect I guess they consider in Israel is that it's more easy to check the reality of any Jewish heritage in a European Jew than in an African one out of the proper Falasha tribes.

 

Israel has brought in hundreds of thousands of non-white Jews

 

Im not buying your last comment. that just comes across as bias and maybe not knowing about prophecy. also im not buying the "wealthy" excuse either. do you think russian jewish ppl are going to give loads of money to Israeli government or something?? nah, thats just an excuse, maybe you mean they are more qualified??

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and millions and millions of white jewish ppl.

 

that's because there are more white Jews than non-white Jews.

due to culture, healthy habits, scientific achievements in food production

 

Absolutely no ... Oh my, from Russia it came a huge mass of atheist Jews [many Russian Jews needed to learn again Jewish tradition as soon as they arrived in Israel]. No, Russian Jews weren't that "qualified". Simply Russia wanted to see them leave and Israel needed further citizens ... and when a demand meets an offer ...

 

giving the Jews part of Germany would have saved the Middle East a lot of headaches

 

thats false. white jews are a tiny, tiny minority. when did jews turn white?

 

ok, now isee your point but my question is why? why do israelis prefer russian jewish ppl as opposed to afrikan jews? is their a racial element (not racist per se but racial)?

 

the majority of Jews are Ashkenazi/Sephardic aka European.

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Israel has rescued hundreds of thousands of non-white Jews.

maybe this was an error, from what I am hearing from you.

 

Racial? May be traditional ... as for I know, the tradition coming from the Old Testament would suggest that the planetary population comes from 3 main "trees".

According to this tradition the "original" Jews were Semites, not Japhetites [European, Caucasians] or Hamites [black people are Hamites or a Hamitic population]. So I guess that in those Israeli environments where they give more importance to traditional heritage than to real mix which Jewish lineages have met in history ... well they find Falasha Jews less traditionally "proper" or something like that.

Personally I don't buy that stance, a Hamitic Jew is a Jew, nothing else.

 

with all due respect, the Biblical table of nations, is an absurd fairy tale. I have more confidence in he existence of Santi Claus.

 

no, they are not real jews, they are converts to judaism. of the real jews there is only a tiny percent that are Israelite heritage and "white" probably 0.1% of jews.

 

that is 100% false and based on racism.

 

but falasha are not stereotypically hamites. if you study you will see they are pure semitic but anyway, that is something else. there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

 

bro, the Biblical Table of Nations is a silly fantasy.

 

its not based on racism it is based on scripture. if you believed in the bible (which you dont) then you would be able to see and have faith in prophecy, a prophecy that allows "us" to see who are the real jews.

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bro, you are a hardcore atheist debating who the biblical israelites are, can you not see the contradiction?

 

projecting racism on to the Bible is sad.

The Bible makes no mention of the colors of the various peoples in the Table of Nations.

nevermind the fact that its all one big silly fantasy

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sorry bro, but I'm not an Atheist, let alone a hardcore one.

but I do have science and genetics on my side, while you rely on racist speculation & fantasy myth.

 

you dont have anything on your side lets be honest here. you have provided nothing, no evidence or proof that jewish ppl are descended from #israelites. you have been rambling on for 3 pages trying to deflect away from the very fact you have provided no information regarding such. We can continue to deflect, its all good, it just proves my point, you have nothing in the means of evidence.

 

I dont think you quite fully understand genetics. What is your race and religion? I could probably tell you what your genetics most likely are. Greeks and Romans have ties to the same people Persians and Turks do because ultimately, they all came from Africa, and also the fact that they are under the same racial stock. Their subcategories differ though, Greeks and Romans are Aryans with a bit of Hamitic and Semitic blood, while Persians and Turks are Hamites with bits of Aryan and Semitic blood. They all live in the same general area, which is why they tend to have similar genetics, but don't tell me a Greek man and a Turkish man look the same, there are obvious differences. By the way, the names don't come from the stories, they are just the scientific names used.

 

there is no such thing as a "Hamite". Its Biblical fairytale nonsense. And no, Romans are not "Aryans". The only Aryans live in India.

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I already told you, majority of European Jews possess the J1 haplotype, which is most common amongst the peoples of the Levant, which included the ancient Jews.

you however, only repeat racist pseudo-theory.

 

what has this got to do with Israelite Lineages?

 

a lot more than what you have stated.

 

more pseudo racist theories *yawn*

you dont have anything. you know why you dont have anything? because there is nothing! there is no Israelite DNA! Ha! Sucks huh, yet this is our reality, we have no verifiable source code for the existence of Israelites. This is why many think Israel never existed and one can be hard pressed to argue with these naysayers, itry to avoid them tbh lol. never the less, you will not be able to use dna to prove Israelite descent so im just saying, you need to get off that horse, thats my advice to you so you wont continue wasting your time.

 

The Israelites started out as Chaldeans, who moved northwest following the Ferticle Crescent, took on more followers in northern Iraq, Kurdistan, and Syria, and finally settled in Canaan.

they then merged with the Canaanites, Phillistines, Edomites, and other local peoples.

their modern descendants still live in these places, and their genetics is the closest thing we have to knowing what ancient Jewish genetics looks like.

its called "common sense".





this is what modern science tells us.