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Should Israel have been created in Germany?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Ronstar, Mar 25, 2015.

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Should Israel have been created in Germany?

  1. Yes, would have been poetic justice.

    3 vote(s)
    27.3%

  2. In Palestine AND Germany. Two is better than one.

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%

  3. Madagascar would be best.

    5 vote(s)
    45.5%

  4. Crimea

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    miserable little (*)(*)(*)(*) piece of land, north of Manchuria.

    an anti-Semites dream come true, as it puts the Jews far away from society.
     
    Ronstar, Apr 2, 2015
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Close to poor China, though :p
     
    Durandal, Apr 2, 2015
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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sounds like you support the idea of all the Jews living in Birobidjan.
     
    Ronstar, Apr 2, 2015
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Did you not just listen to what I said. Yes, they were swarthy and still are, being Caucasian doesn't imply fair skin. Hell, East Indians are part of the Aryan subcategory and yet they are dark due to climate. It's just the genetics, the phenotype varies. Read the post I put in the science category and I explain this in more detail.
     
    HailVictory, Apr 2, 2015
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    I was thinking more of the climate, and the nationality of the early migrants. As for holocausts, the passengers on the St Louis were turned away from the USA, sent back to die.
     
    Colonel K, Apr 2, 2015
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  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    did the USA know they would die?
     
    Ronstar, Apr 2, 2015
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Oh yeah, and by the way, if we make a Jewish state, we can surely allow an Islamic state.
     
    HailVictory, Apr 2, 2015
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  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Muslim isn't a small, persecuted ethnic group.
     
    Ronstar, Apr 2, 2015
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  9. AlpinLuke

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    What do you mean? That we should suggest to Jews around the world to go and live in Israel? If Jews want they can go [Israel is always glad to welcome Jews, there is even a law of return to make this easy].

    Anyway, being Italian, I'm thinking that we could do the same with Italians [Italians in the world are about 120,000,000, considering descendants of the first generations, but only 60,000,000 live in Italy]. I imagine the 30,000,000 of Italians who live in South American coming back to this land ...
     
    AlpinLuke, Apr 3, 2015
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    I agree with Ronstar. Germany is a beautiful part of the world and Israel should have been put there.
     
    rangecontraction, Apr 3, 2015
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    “We learn from history that we do not learn from history”
    Georg Hegel

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    Absolutely terrible idea
     
    Scholar, Apr 3, 2015
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    read the thread :wall:
     
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    Israelis arent glad to welcome jews. they only welcome european converts to judaism. thats why all of the jewish ppl in Israel are european of course bar a tiny minority of Ethiopians.
     
    J0NAH, Apr 3, 2015
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    Israel is very crowded. American Jews live in a country wher they feel well. No need to go to Israel.
     
    AlpinLuke, Apr 3, 2015
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    Why did they invite all of those russians and polish then and not more ethiopians?
     
    J0NAH, Apr 3, 2015
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    Invite ... Well Russia signed agreements with Israel about. Russia was glad to see them leave. About Ethiopians ... Jews there are a few, only the Falasha tribes.
     
    AlpinLuke, Apr 3, 2015
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    israelis had agreements with Ethiopia but they broke off that agreement with thousands of Ethiopians still wanting to travel but israelis only allow europeans now it seems. not to mention the thousands of jewish ppl in Nigeria.
     
    J0NAH, Apr 3, 2015
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  18. AlpinLuke

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    This deserves to be suitably checked. Let me collect information about.
     
    AlpinLuke, Apr 3, 2015
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    You keep talking about "ethnic group". Is not every convert to Judaism then Jewish? There is no DNA link with a convert.
     
    fifthofnovember, Apr 3, 2015
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the VAST majority of Jews are not converts, and genetic research shows that the majority of European Jews do have Levantine genes.
     
    Ronstar, Apr 3, 2015
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    this is where their theory hits a brick wall. >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<

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    the vast majority of them are converts. the few who are not are of lineal descent from the Israelites, the 1%.
     
    J0NAH, Apr 3, 2015
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  22. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    baseless speculation, using only the color of their skin as "evidence".
     
    Ronstar, Apr 3, 2015
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  23. J0NAH

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    your theory is just baseless speculation. you cannot prove jewish ppl are the descendants of the Israelites. Do you know why you can't?
    Because they are not and ican prove that.
     
    J0NAH, Apr 3, 2015
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  24. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    genetic evidence shows that a majority of European Jews possess genetics that are most common in Palestine, Kurdistan, Syria, Yemen, and other parts of the Levant.

    This is exceptional evidence that the historical narrative of the Jews moving north and west into the Roman and Greek and Byzantine empires, is accurate.
     
    Ronstar, Apr 3, 2015
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  25. AlpinLuke

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    The immigration from Ethiopia has been quite constant through the decade with a considerable pick in early 90's [when the "Falasha" became a curiosity at world level ...]. This page presents a summary, year by year: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejim.html

    Problems about integration of black Jews exist and they are quite annoying [there is who talks about a form of real racism, even beyond discrimination]. This is concerning on the side of a people like the Jewish one. Anyway the phenomenon is matter of political debate and action in Israel [according to the law of return black Jews have got all the rights of all Jews ... as it's obvious! So that they can denounce cases of discrimination, winning the trials and obtaining compensations from the court].

    Take a look at this article: http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew
     
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