Should Judge Merchan jail Trump on the 11th violation?

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Should Judge Merchan jail Trump on the 11th violation?

  1. Yes, trial integrity demands it.

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  2. No, bad for the country/political consequences, etc.

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but as long as we are playing that game, anyone else and they would not be at trial because there would have never been any charges filed.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm saying the standard IS lower... legally... it doesn't have to be a death threat to constitute intimidation of juries or witnesses.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Context matters. Intimidating somebody who may decide your fate in what is supposed to be an impartial trial, or witnesses who may have key things to say, is interfering with the trial.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The legal standard requires that the intimidation be directed at a specific person.
     
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    You suggested that as long as one stated a fact, it doesn't violate a gag order. You are wrong.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    This comment wasn't directed at a specific person.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Implying the trial is rigged against him because the jurors are biased. How do you think Trumpers would treat such persons? Context matters.
     
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    Who are the jurors? Post their names.
     
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    You do know many who’ve protested at colleges have been arrested, right?
     
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    Instead, I've seen Trump supporters:

    -attack spouse of Speaker of House and laugh about it with the crowd at a rally
    -attack our Capitol and constitutional process
    -plot to kidnap congressmen and governors
    -send pipe-bombs to clinics, media, and politicians
    -run down and gun down protestors
    -firebomb Democratic HQs around the country
    -firebomb churches for hosting drag events
    -threaten election workers and voters
    -attack our electrical grids
    -behead their own family members that work for government
    -run campaign buses off the road
    -chant 'Jews will not replace us'
    -shoot up homes of Democratic councilmembers
    -kill neighbors because they ‘think’ they are Democrats
    -attack synagogues, churches, schools, and malls
    -attack Democratic staffers with metal bats
    -threaten to bomb Democratic campaign offices
     
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    Nonsense. But you know that.
     
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    That would be the jury. Their biggest shield is being anonymous, but everybody knows that shield isn't for sure.
     
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    Great... show us who he intimidated...
     
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    Yep! No one is above the law

    THAT must be the message
     
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    Since he didn't say any specific names, he wasn't trying to intimidate anyone.

    It's time for you to admit that the ruling is bullshit.
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    It has already been adjudicated however let’s look at his history

    upload_2024-5-7_10-3-53.jpeg

    Acceptable/ not acceptable??
     
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    No, I don't think it is. Any disparaging (or identifying) comment about the jury from this guy is going to be intimidating. He calls Pence a coward - his people want to execute Pence. He calls the jury rigged against him because they're democrats, his people likely would want to give them the same treatment. And there is a chance their identities will be revealed. We hope they won't, but they could.

    The guy needs to not talk about the jury. Gag order. Not gag suggestion.
     
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    Acceptable
     
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    Then write to his lawyers with a strategy for appeal…….ooops! Sorry just saying “it’s bullshit” is not an acceptable appeal strategy
     
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    Really? Implicit threats are acceptable - why?
    Now let’s play on….
    upload_2024-5-7_10-6-28.jpeg

    Acceptable/ not acceptable?
     
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    That isn't the legal standard, though. You're the one that wants to use legal standards. Don't move the goalposts just because the legal standard isn't working for you.
     
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    This case was appealed before it ever began...lol
     
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    Not acceptable.

    The sad part is, you can't see the difference...lol
     
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    Why isn’t it the legal standard? Got quotes/citations or is that you are repeating what Faux News has said?
     
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    And, is that not the legal process?
     

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