Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

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Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

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  2. No

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I answered all of your questions already.
     
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    The Hindu society of India is able to make it work because they are a great deal more civilized than the USA. So I don't begrudge them sleeping on the streets.
     
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    Ain't that a kick in the teeth. Yes, that is exactly what they think. I bet when they drop something they look up in the sky to see where it went.
     
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    I have the same experience. When night falls and it's too late to move on you just have to find a place to put your head down. I usually took a small tent with me and many times I slept at the Autobahnrastplätze.
     
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    I've stealth camped in dense brush and forest within 100 yards of a shopping center. Pizza, breakfast, movie, all within easy walking distance, a welcome break from the trail. Illegal as hell, but if you leave only footprints nobody knows. Of course all those trees were probably gone to asphalt and tin roofs within six months time.
     
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    Yes, as well as a washbasin to cleanup & brush your teeth and a toilette to do your business.
     
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    Yes, I agree that people should not have the right to serve as human speed bumps as they would pose a danger to themselves & others.
    I interpreted the the Poll question figuratively as in "street wise" does not mean that one is knowledgable in road construction.
     
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    You could make that argument i suppose.
     
  9. rcfoolinca288

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    The problem with you and people like you (both in the "civilian world" and government) is that all you do is whine and complain while really not offering any worthwhile solutions. What do you think levy a fine on these people or arresting them will do?? Nothing that's what. They have zero money so fining them is nothing more than a symbolic gestures. Arrest them?? LOL....Hey, for some of them it would be a chance for a night of decent food and a warm bed to sleep in. The next day, they will be on the streets again. Your poll question is lousy. It ought to be how we go about solving the homeless crisis. But you won't go there because even the Aussies haven't been able to address it. Sad!
     
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    The pushers aren't the problem. If no one wants their goods, they'll stop selling them.
     
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    Why do you think 'resolving' homelessness is actually on the agenda of ANY Govt? Clearly, it isn't. If it was, they'd be making it as difficult and uncomfortable as possible. They would not be deliberately creating more of it .. as they are doing. Why they want more is anyone's guess.

    Veterans are no different to other disabled people - they have families, too. It's a family's job to care for broken members (as long as they're not addicts etc).
     
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    In the case of veterans with diagnosed PTSD, it's their FAMILIES who have failed.
     
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    That's an absurd assumptions on your part.

    Whatever, you people don't want to seem to solve the issue yet you whine and moan about having to avoid poop on the sidewalks and elsewhere. Just let it continue then and you can whine away to your heart content.
     
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    When you say 'Australia' has no answer .. do you mean Australia the land mass? the govt? the family who've abandoned these people? the addicts themselves? Who, exactly?

    And yes .. OBVIOUSLY when you make something less attractive, less people will do it. Duh.
     
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    It's for them to figure out. Instead of complaining about America's homeless, they should have a good record of cleaning their own house.

    It really haven't worked out all that great has it? There are laws against this, but it doesn't help one bit.
     
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    Nor are they addicts. They don't choose homelessness (via poor choices).

    And they are the homeless people who actually deserve help .. for that reason. They never chose it, and would make the absolute most of any opportunity to escape it. Every dollar spent in helping such people would be paid back tenfold, in terms of success.
     
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    So veterans are created in science labs? No actual parents or siblings or aunts or uncles or neices or nephews etc? Interesting!

    Absolutely I would like to see the issue taken more seriously. But apparently no Govts are interested. Worse, Leftist Progressive type govts/officials want to create more homelessness.
     
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    Agreed. Australians should avoid becoming addicts, and Australian families should care for their own. We're definitely on the same page there. And of course, Australian govt needs to outlaw street sleeping.
     
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    They're able to make it work because the homeless are not addicts. They are GENUINELY impoverished, via no choice or action of their own.
     
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    Please don't say you actually think that making homelessness (and therefore addiction) more comfortable, will end homelessness. You don't seriously think that, do you? :eek:
     
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    I just took a walk and didn't see any poop on the sidewalks, nor even any homeless. A few neighbors to chat about the weather with, but poop? Nope, didn't see any.

    Nothing for me to whine and moan about.
     
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    Not so in the case of your conservative brethrens. Many of them whine loudly on this thread.
     
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    You might be confusing complaining with pointing out how democrats have done a poop poor job of governing their own cities.

    I've been told that I don't have much empathy, but you have to admit that democrats don't have much of a leg to stand on in that regard, considering there's some serious social problems happening in their cities, and they don't seem to be caring all that much.

    How much empathy does it take to live in Los Angeles and commute to work via skid row every day? Who are they gonna vote for? I'm guessing an incumbent.
     
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    Opiates and methamphetamine's are highly addictive. Make a mistake once and you're liable to be hooked. Pushers know that. They make money off that. A large percent of homeless are the results. They don't have that problem in Hong Kong where they execute pushers.
     
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    It's a cultural thing. Drug addicts are seen as worse than scum in Asia, and your family social status takes an enormous hit as well.
     
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