Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

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Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

  1. Yes

    16 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. No

    40 vote(s)
    71.4%
  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Choices.
     
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    Because you are not homeless so how would you be qualified to know that it is a fact.
     
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  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Why would someone be affected by mosquitos more or less depending on what the law say about street camping?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess in conservative cities, everybody is ...."meh" so there isn't wage disparity? LOL.[/QUOTE]

    Y'all righties are talking out both side of your mouth. How can lefties be anti business and yet have the wealthy cities? And if lefties were socialists and y'all put it, there wouldn't be any homeless since lefties would take money from the wealthy businesses and share with the poor??

    Let people to die in the street or whining like you and your "conservative" brethens ain't exactly doing something about it.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got it. I'll put you under the "whining and moaning" column.


    Move where? Down the street? Man, you are a comedian.



    Then what the hell is this poll for??? Now you are just being disingenuous. That, or you are just plain trolling.


    No. That isn't making it "worse." They have always been on the "streets." Again, what's Australia's great solution for the homeless? Are the conservatives there doing nothing like you and just whine about the issue??
     
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    I said, "Either you didn't read what I wrote or maybe you've misplaced your thinking cap" because you either didn't read what I wrote or maybe it went over your head. Funny, that now you are asking me "why" (again) despite the fact that even the answer to that question is in my response.

    BOTM LINE: You are not reading my posts. Bye.
     
  7. chris155au

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    Where you can also put yourself! After all, you have also raised issue with things that you don't have a solution to! (Given that you didn't say that you're not guilty of this when I challenged you on it in my last reply!)

    Sure, down the street, where they will be moved on again later! The idea is to make it so that they're not too comfortable in their homeless situation! Don't you agree? Or do you think that it's compassionate to allow people to lie in their own filth for their whole lives?

    Mainly to see how many insane people there are on here. So far, there are at least 16 people, or 28% of the poll respondents.

    Then why is the problem so much worse in cities where it is perfectly legal to camp on the street? Think San Francisco, Portland,
    Seattle and Los Angeles. Are you seriously going to pretend that there is no connection whatsoever?

    Did I claim that we have a "great solution?" I didn't, although I can say that at least PART of our solution is to not make the situation worse by allowing people to camp on the street, just like the majority of the US that ISN'T run by leftist lunatics!
     
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    So then how are they MORE civilised?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How are they more civilised?
     
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    They don't shet the place up or use drugs and throw the needles in the street.
     
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    Oh, you mean the homeless population of India is more civilised than the homeless population of US. I thought you meant the society of each country in general.
     
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    1) Certainly. All cities have wealth disparity. The important point is that Progressive cities have the MOST. That wouldn't be noteworthy if Progressives weren't also the very people claiming to care the MOST about wealth disparity. Yet they do, and it is.

    2) I'm not a "Rightie". And no clue what you're referring to .. my post didn't mention anything like 'anti-business' etc. Also, I'm the last person to suggest that the average 2019 Leftist is any kind of socialist. On the contrary, many are flaming bourgeoisie.

    3) Anyone who raises their kids right (so their kids don't end up druggies or unemployable) is 'doing something about it'. Anyone who takes care of their less able family members is 'doing something about it'. Anyone who understands that sometimes we must be cruel to be kind is 'doing something about it'. I could go on all day. You tell me which group does this stuff better? Either? Neither?
     
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    Unlike you, I have yet to start a thread moaning or complaining about anything. Go find one if you wish to prove otherwise.


    You call that "uncomfortable"?? LMAO. Try to sleep on concrete a few nights in the blazing heat or shivering cold, then come back and tell me that moving from one place to another is "uncomfortable." :roll:



    I see. So the sole purpose of your thread is to troll forum members and to call them "insane" for having differing viewpoints. :rolleyes:



    Wealthy cities tend to have a greater wage discrepancies. It have ZERO connection to homelessness because "leftists" are running it. You would think places like Alabama, a conservative state, don't have homeless but it surely does!!!



    If you didn't arrest your homeless and put them in some sort of camp, then yes, you surely are letting camp out on the street. ;)
     
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    You are wasting your time, I'm afraid, rcfoolinca288. When someone seems to have misunderstood your contribution there is nothing wrong in that. When you repeat your statement with an explanation and they still reply as though they "didn't get it" you can think that you might not have supported your view well enough. But when their third response is pretty much a copy of their first one then you have to consider the possibility that they are either intentionally winding you up - are well below the level of your insight/intelligence - or simply refuse to admit that their view is incorrect.

    The dilemma of "homelessness" is (as you already know) a problem that is created by an environment/social system/politically inhumane set of rules and laws. There mere thought of removing them by legal measures smacks of Nazi-oriented philosophy advancing (step-by-step) towards a "final solution". Maybe worse. Whereas the Third Reich made it clear that Arians were privileged citizens, destitution, on the other hand, can affect anyone with Kafka-isk regularity.
     
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    Well I didn't say that you HAVE started a thread moaning and complaining! I just said that you have - in your life outside of the online world - also raised issue with things that you don't have a solution to! (Given that you didn't say that you're not guilty of this when I challenged you on it in my last TWO replies!)

    Did I say that being moved on is more uncomfortable than sleeping on concrete in the blazing heat or shivering cold? NO, I did not! And it is precisely BECAUSE of these conditions that we shouldn't want people to suffer in them! And you seem to neglect the fact that even WITH these conditions people remain homeless. So how is making them as comfortable as possible by allowing them to stay permanently fixed in a camping spot going to bring them out of homelessness exactly? I look forward to your response on that!

    Well presumably you would call people "insane" for having racist viewpoints - I know I would. Are you saying that you wouldn't call anyone insane for any viewpoint? Of course you would!

    Do you have even a SHRED of evidence which links wage discrepancies with homelessness?

    Well that's an entire state, presumably with some Democrat run cities in it. So you're going to have to pinpoint specific Republican run cities if you want to compare and contrast.

    Well I didn't say that we DON'T arrest them! And I'm not sure what you mean by "some sort of camp." It would be weird if you thought that by not putting them into "some sort of camp" this means that a government is letting people camp out on the street! Anyway, there's a BIG difference between letting them camp out on the street, obstructing sidewalks and access to buildings etc. and letting them camp outdoors in certain areas, such as parks etc. What's funny is that you're complaining about it, but you haven't ONCE stated that making it illegal actually makes the homeless situation worse! Do you actually have any evidence that it does? Shouldn't there be a HUGE contrast between cities where it's legal and cities where it's not? Well, there IS a huge contrast, and it's that it is MUCH WORSE in cities where it's legal! :roflol: I look forward to your response! ;)
     
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    Why would someone be affected by mosquitos more or less depending on what the law say about street camping?
     

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