Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by chris155au, Aug 24, 2019.

?

Should people have a right to sleep on city streets?

  1. Yes

    16 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. No

    40 vote(s)
    71.4%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And THERE it is! Another laughably pathetic repeat! :roflol:
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Street" does not mean ROAD. It includes sidewalks where people sleep. Nobody sleeps on the road.
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,758
    Likes Received:
    9,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree. As of late.....our culture sucks!!
     
  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I answered all of your questions already.
     
  5. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Have you ever wondered what an "absurd conclusion" is? Here is one:

    " .... don't say you actually think that making homelessness (and therefore addiction) more comfortable, will end homelessness".

    The subject here is whether or not people should have a right to sleep on city streets. The reasons why people might want/need to sleep there vary. Making it illegal is ridiculous and denying people a solution to their destitution will no doubt develop into private homes being intruded.
     
  6. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's not much of an argument, dude. In fact, it's an argument in favor of pushing them on down the road. I don't want no homeless idiot coming into my house! If he's 100 miles down the road, he's somebody else's problem.
     
  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Either you didn't read what I wrote or maybe you've misplaced your thinking cap. Your home is safe as long as sleeping out is legal. Making it illegal is when your big problems begin.
     
  8. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :roflol:
     
  9. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, they're far down the road with my remedy to the homeless so my home is quite safe.

    Think of them as cockroaches. You do what is necessary to get rid of them. You don't quite get the idea of extra strength raid. They either leave or they become casualties.
     
  10. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    OK, if you want me to think of them as cockroaches they will do whatever necessary to survive and will find places to dwell anywhere food is available.
     
  11. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    100 miles down the road means they aren't sitting at my dinner table.

    They were already bumrushed out, so... I'm not too worried. That plus a shotgun loaded with buckshot can make a hell of an argument that maybe greener pastures are further down the road.

    so no, you've said nothing. They ain't in my neck of the woods, but I'm guessing there might be a few in yours...

    So what's your plan?
     
  12. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So do you ONLY EVER raise issue with something if you have a solution? I don't think so! :roflol:

    Who is talking about fining them and arresting them? At the VERY LEAST, making it illegal means that people will be ordered to MOVE ON! Let's agree that there should be no arrest or fines - what about moving them on? Do you agree with that?

    A poll about how we go about solving the homeless crisis? What would that poll look like?

    We don't make it worse by allowing people to camp on the street.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
  13. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How is that not FACT?
     
  14. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Street" does not mean ROAD. It includes sidewalks where people sleep. Nobody sleeps on the road.
     
  15. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How are they more civilised?
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
  16. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I mistakenly replied to your post instead of someone else's! Yet somehow you seemed to make sense of it given that you responded! Not sure how you made sense of it!
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
  17. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    9,065
    Likes Received:
    4,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    The dictionary defines "Street" as:
    "street |strēt| noun; a public road in a city or town, typically with houses and buildings on one or both sides: the narrow, winding streets of Greenwich Village | [ in place names ] : 45 Lake Street."

    So, yes, "street" and "road" are synonymous but strictly defined, does not include "sidewalks".

    I re-read your OP and agree that people should not be allowed to obstruct street/road or sidewalk traffic but also feel like people like the homeless or "bare bones budget travelers" should be able to sleep in public places especially when they have no other options, are discrete & considerate.
     
    chris155au likes this.
  18. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    14,267
    Likes Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Probably because they have an ”I'm alright, Jack” attitude. They think of themselves only. Any problem – no matter what – is seen strictly from where they sit.
    True.
    No doubt.
    Yes, but that is from a humanitarian point of view …... your concern. These people are only concerned with themselves. That means that your response will be one of an overall solution starting from the ground up while theirs' is self-centred. The American system is to blame for that. In fact, as you ask that question, “how we go about solving the homeless crisis”, you might just as well be speaking Martian. They don't understand that question and “Make them go away!” is the only reply you'll get from them. But you know that already.
     
    rcfoolinca288 likes this.
  19. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They went after big Tobacca in the USA, a very, very miniscule problem compared to heroin and opioids.

    Of course corporate headquarters are easy to find, raid, and get their money.

    But drug culture, pushers, and the resulting deaths are loved by a large portion of the population in the USA.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
    Ddyad and yabberefugee like this.
  20. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,758
    Likes Received:
    9,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No denying that!
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  21. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,758
    Likes Received:
    9,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well for one. they starve and won't eat meat while their sacred cows pollute the water their children drink from.
     
    jay runner likes this.
  22. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because the greatest wealth disparity, and the most homelessness, occurs in Progressive cities. Leftists are therefore are both causing homelessness, and perpetuating homelessness. WE (as in conservatives and 'rogue' Lefties like myself) actually want to see something done about it.
     
    jay runner and Ddyad like this.
  23. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So don't make that mistake. It's not rocket science. Jeez, anyone would think it's difficult to avoid such things, the way you talk about it. I suppose people can't help robbing convenience stores, either. Better get rid of convenience stores, so we're all protected from ourselves.

    And HK is less druggie because its citizens aren't druggie.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  24. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh? And why would that be? Are you saying such people - instead of simply sobering up and rejoining polite society - will commit crimes? That that's the kind of people they are?
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  25. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Honest obit:

    Daniel Eugene Losey, Biloxi -- At about 9:00 p.m. September 6, 2019, Daniel Eugene Losey age 36, injected methamphetamine into his veins, walked into his parents backyard and shot himself to death. . . (family tree, etc.) Daniel was a kind and generous soul, but was also tormented by drugs. We will never know what depths of despair drive this sweet and considerate man to believe himself unworthy of living. Parents beware for your children. Meth is not a recreational drug. Meth addicts and meth kills. . . Daniel was offered a full academic scholarship at Florida State University. The Navy offered him their prestigious Nuclear Power School. However, Daniel chose to stay in Pensacola by friends and attend the University of West Florida. That was a fateful decision as those friends led to cutting classes, drugs, sex, and alcohol which began a downward spiral finally ending in his suicide. (9-06-2019, SunHerald, Biloxi, MS)
     
    Ddyad likes this.

Share This Page