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So why is President Trump and the right so against voting my mail?

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taking timeout to look into it.
     
    Dutch, Apr 9, 2020
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So dems are counting on voter gullibility? Not a bad plan!
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Apr 9, 2020
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  3. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Prone
     
    ButterBalls, Apr 9, 2020
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. Can you provide any valid studies that suggest voting by mail is "prone" to fraud on a "mass scale"?
     
    Ericb760, Apr 9, 2020
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nailed it!
     
    Spim, Apr 9, 2020
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Since Tammany Hall, Democrats have been lying about their voting fraud as if it doesn't happen while it occurs on a mass scale.

    Then they lie that obtaining picture ID is onerous or unfair.

    Some lies never change.
     
    Sanskrit, Apr 9, 2020
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ID theft, especially by illegals, is rampant. There's a well known park in LA where you can get a SS card with any number you want.

    Why is the left against a national ID card with high tech security features?
     
    Steve N, Apr 9, 2020
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    Screw the guardian..


    Voting by mail is great, i think.

    But again, screw the guardian how we vote is none of their business.


    Just to ne clear.. screw the rest of the world how America takes care of it's internal issues are none of your business. NONE.
     
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's an idea: Why not issue everyone eligible a "high tech" SSN card?

    Kills two birds with one stone.
     
    Ericb760, Apr 9, 2020
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    No I cant, I'm just explaining the context of the word Prone is all... Just trying to help you understand that it used as a inconclusive statement or claim. Without data/study there is certainly potential for abuse is all..
     
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I keep reading about this "mass scale voter fraud", but no one seems to be able to document it.

    Why is that?

    Heck, Trump even appointed a blue ribbon panel to supposedly uncover it, then quietly disbanded it.
     
    Ericb760, Apr 9, 2020
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    That's not a bad idea!
     
    ButterBalls, Apr 9, 2020
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    But the reality is that it has been studied to death.

    If I recall, one study found exactly 31 cases of voter fraud in one billion votes studied.

    http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-...-of-1-billion-ballots-cast-140808?news=853914
     
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    I gather all the ballots freshly delivered to a nursing home. I announce I will help those poor old people fill out their ballots. I help them think their way through the process. They sign, and I mail. Easy peasy.
    No fraud, just gentle persuasion.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Count me in.
     
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    Well then there is this I quoted from a link provided by a Leftist in another thread..
    Cali lost this battle and that number is nothing to scoff at, you agree?
     
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    Because it is the only way democrats can cheat and win.
     
    Crownline, Apr 9, 2020
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    ButterBalls, Apr 9, 2020
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    Is there any evidence that suggests any those 1,565,000 committed voter fraud?

    People move, and people die.

    That doesn't make a conspiracy.
     
    Ericb760, Apr 9, 2020
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet, you have failed to demonstrate that any of those 1.5 million registrants committed voter fraud, only that they likely moved or died.
     
    Ericb760, Apr 9, 2020
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    Well let me offer the two comments in your link..
    Try and put it in to perspective, that 1.5 million is certainly a potential problem.. If you care to be logical.. And that just one state!
     
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    What's this about changing times?

    One problem with vote by mail in the middle of a pandemic would be the inability to verify voters. In my state, by law over 200k people were supposed to be purged off the rolls because they were unresponsive to inquiry, moved, or died. That case is in the courts. If not resolved, would you send out those ballots? The first step in changing how people vote must first be to verify who would get ballot and ensure they are eligible. How do you plan to do that in a pandemic?
     
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