Stop blaming the NRA for failed gun control efforts

So I guess that means that you must "despise" CERT volunteers like myself who only give up their personal free time as opposed to being PAID to work in LE.

Furthermore since you have posted above that you are biased and therefore could not be a fair and impartial witness in a criminal trial I wonder what a defense lawyer would make of a public admission by a LEO that he "despises criminal brutes"?

I will stick with innocent until proven guilty myself.

 

Wow !

You sure assume much, most of it wrong.

Where do you get the idea that I could despise you for your great work ?

And yes, everyone is innocent until proven guilty and has a Right to prove their innocence in Court.

My despising "Criminal Brutes" has nothing to do with me not being impartial or denying anyone their Rights to a fair trial or their day in Court and was not aimed at a particular person or persons accused.

No bias at all.

I despise the acts perpetrated, such as denying Rights, a Rapist cares nothing about his victims Rights and this is what I despise.

You have very strange and unfounded opinions about Me, somebody you know absolutely nothing about.

Fascinating........

 

All I have to go on is the content of your own posts and the posts of others that you actively "like".

You posted that you "despise" "criminal brutes" which is a negative emotive statement about yourself revealing a biased attitude towards them. How can my opinion be "unfounded" given that is what you said about yourself?

 

Why not ask if I hold biased views of
anyone ?

You can't say that about me in any way from my posts as I have never said I judge anyone.

You still don't get that I despise Criminal Brutes that hurt People.

I don't fathom how you twist my words or why you want to fight Me.

Perhaps you are projecting your bias upon me, I have no negative emotions towards anyone.

I will still despise Rapists and other assorted villains, nothing negative about despising Evil.

◄ Job 1:8 ►
King James Version
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

 

I am not twisting your words or fighting you either.

This all began because you projected your own negative emotions about "criminal brutes" onto me.

These are your own words;

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/despising

I am not responsible for the terms you chose to describe yourself. All I have done is ask for clarification, explain my position and point out how despising is a negative emotion that demonstrates a bias.

FTR despising someone is rendering a judgement about them.

 

Uh, if I named a person like saying I hate President XXX or a Race, etc.
You could say that about Me.

I am not hating a person, just as in posts where others want to eliminate a Woman's Right over her own body, I despise that view.

Please cease from accusing me of false stuff, it is pretty much libel / slander.

 

I am not accusing you of anything that you haven't posted about yourself.

Words have meanings and you projected the meaning of one of the terms that you use to describe yourself into me. I did not take it personally and I did not accuse you of saying anything false about myself.

Emotions can be directed towards individuals, groups and even inanimate objects. Emotions reveal things about ourselves. What we post tells others who we are as persons. We are entirely responsible for what we post.

Nothing that I have posted about you is "false stuff" since it was what you posted about yourself. However if you feel insulted then I apologize, what I posted was not intended to be insulting but rather just matter of fact.

 

...But strip people of their Constitutional rights without due process because they MIGHT do something wrong?

You can't have it both ways. Are you even equipped to recognize your own hypocrisy here??

 

Ironic since it is the NRA that is hypocritical for PRETENDING to support rights while IGNORING all of the non-2A rights of We the People.

 

What rights are they ignoring, and why are all rights their business? That's what the ACLU does, except they ignore the 2nd Amendment.

 

Wrong on both counts!

The NRA is ignoring the rights of We the People to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness by fostering a culture of fear and death where mass killings are becoming the norm.

The ACLU does support the 2nd Amendment. Look it up if you don't believe me.

 

So much fail. The rights to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", like actual Constitutionally protected rights, are there to prevent the government from interfering with the People's ability to practice them. The NRA doesn't foster a culture of fear and death, and mass killings are not becoming the norm.

According to Miller, Heller and Caetano, the 2nd Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. ACLU does not support this view.

"Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008.

In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment. However, particular federal or state laws on licensing, registration, prohibition, or other regulation of the manufacture, shipment, sale, purchase or possession of guns may raise civil liberties questions.

ANALYSIS
Although ACLU policy cites the Supreme Court's decision in U.S. v. Miller as support for our position on the Second Amendment, our policy was never dependent on Miller. Rather, like all ACLU policies, it reflects the ACLU's own understanding of the Constitution and civil liberties.

Heller takes a different approach than the ACLU has advocated. At the same time, it leaves many unresolved questions, including what firearms are protected by the Second Amendment, what regulations (short of an outright ban) may be upheld, and how that determination will be made."

That's like saying "I support the 2nd Amendment, but only for muskets in the militia". They don't even understand that if the collective view was "widely accepted", then Miller never would have been reviewed by SCOTUS as he did not have the standing to appeal his conviction as an individual.

 

Like most on the left, the ACLU only cares about rights they agree with.

 

so you support abortion rights?

 

I do, actually; but I have to laugh at gun control advocates who make the comparison.

In Roe v Wade the USSC found a right to abortion through the Fourteenth Amendment's right to privacy guarantee. Abortion is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but supporters of women's reproductive rights still trumpet a woman's "Constitutional Right" to have an abortion

...and these same people claim the 2nd Amendment's clear statement of the people's right to be armed somehow isn't legitimate or worthy of being acknowledged?

 

Heller was decided 5 to 4.

Roe was decided 7 to 2.

 

which shows the right to bodily privacy is considered more important than the right to keep and carry guns

 

You know, I might have thought that way until I realized that some will invade your bodies privacy if you are not strong enough to prevent it, hence the Right to keep and bear Arms is equal to the Right of not having ones body violated by a stronger better prepared adversary.

 

Caetano was 9-0

 

Which is idiotic in the extreme. Why should the ability to protect your bodily security be seen as any less relevant as your bodily privacy?

 

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, if they are indeed constitutionally recognized and protected rights, exist to protect the people from the government, not from each other. It is legally and physically impossible for constitutional rights to be violated by a private individual.

 

Denial and deflection don't alter reality.

Just because the ACLU has a REALISTIC interpretation of the 2nd Amendment does not mean that it is not supporting it.

The bizarrely distorted interpretation of the 2A which is abused by the NRA to promote a culture of fear and death is not embraced by We the People.

Ultimately We the People uphold our own rights and will take them back from the NRA starting this November.

 

...and yet here you are, still trying.

No, WE the people will continue to defend our rights against those who would usurp them with lies and falsehoods.

 

Ironic given that it is the NRA that perpetuates lies and falsehoods.

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/23/dana-loeschs-litany-of-nra-lies-continues-with-cpac-speech/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/national-rifle-association/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/the-nras-lie-about-guns-t_b_2372660.html

https://www.pressherald.com/2018/02...-on-the-nras-lies-about-the-second-amendment/

 

The only falsehoods that are being presented, are those who are making claims that the second amendment does not protect commonly available firearms such as the AR-15, and labeling them as so-called "weapons of war" or some other nonsense along those lines.