Strike Down GOP Gerrymandering

Gerrymandered districts each with Representative is Democratic Representation.

You don't know what "Democratic Representation" means, do you?

 

And replace it with what?

 

phooey

 

Your replacement is?

 

Hexagons?

 

Hahahahaha..

 

see post # 73

 

Random districts will eliminate representation to many diverse groups.

Why are you against diversity in representation?

 

I want equitable representation. You do not. Gerrymandering suppresses voting and diversity.

 

MAKE AMERICA REALLY&TRULY GREAT

Wrong again.

The function of any truly fair and decent vote is that of the voting population. Nothing is more definitional of the word "democracy" or "liberty". That is, the ultimate and absolute freedom-of-choice of citizens to elect their political representatives (city, state or nation).

Which is why the House of REPRESENTATIVES (HofR) is a direct vote by means of population. No distinctions made! The popular-vote should suffice uniquely without any manipulation either by an Electoral College at the national level deciding the presidency nor on the state level deciding who is elected either to state or national congresses.

However, because we were once a highly naive nation in the early 19th century, having won independence from a British monarchy, what was there then in the world upon which to model our political structure? Rome was no model, it had a Senate (populated by rich families) and England was the only real role-model with its elected parliament. (Which nonetheless had voted the money to pay for the troops that fought General Washington, himself ex-member of the British Army. The British Parliament voted the funding of the war against the "revolutionaries in the colonies". Whyzzat? Well, one reason was that the colonies - principally the US and Australia - were handy geographies into which they could dump their jailed-prisoners in Great Britain!)

We blundered upon the present model that allowed for a Electoral College to communicate the findings of state elections. Because no one wanted to trust just one or three or even five individuals to send to Congress the results of the state-elections to the presidency and Congress. (There were no trains, roads were piecemeal, and no telegraph. Only men on horseback could carry the document with the electoral results.)

What we got wrong was the inherent manipulation of the popular-vote by leaving the electoral process at the state-level in hands of people who would want to manipulate it for their own purposes. And there were plenty of such people about, because England had been dumping their prison-population into the "colonies".

How dumb can a country get when it either fails or refuses to understand that the POPULAR VOTE IS THE ONE AND ONLY BASIS FOR THE EXPRESSION OF A PEOPLE'S SELECTION OF THEIR REPRESENTATION IN GOVERNMENT? (Which is not only a basic right but a fundamental duty.)

Well, having seen how easy it was to manipulate the vote by carving out voting districts according to party-lines, it became a national tool of the two main parties.

And NOW is the time to Make America Really&Truly Great by finally implementing the Popular-Vote uniquely as the one-and-only decider of who represents "the people" in the Executive and the Legislative powers of governance.

 

So you think the Senate is more "diverse" than the House?

Interesting moving standards that the left uses.

 

How any state other than yours chooses their house members is their business, not yours.

 

Yep that's how the Demos ended up controlling the Land of Lincoln. First they gerrymandered the city of Chicago and the Capitol of the State Springfield. Then the Suburbs. Now they are trying to do so with rural areas.

 

Oh, come off it!

Gerrymandering was and still is a electoral Game Rule in America. The Dems would have been fools not to do what the Replicants were doing!

What has happened, however, is that the Replicants have done far more gerrymandering than the Democrats, only because they had the ability to do so because No Law* Prevents Any Party From Diving Up The Election Map As They See Fit ...

*And the highest court in the land pussyfoots around the issue of gerrymandering the vote. Maybe it will find the courage to do something now that the Replicants control the SC.

 

Here lets make this simple for you. Simple is as simple does.The Oldest party in the US is your Democrats. Now....lets see if you can figure out who was the first to start gerrymandering. Even before there was a Republican party.

I'll wait!

 

Gerrymandering was "started" by Governor Gerry of Massachusetts in 1812.

From the Internet:

And, it has remained a bipartisan "feature" of American elections ever since ...

 

States don't have the authority to violate the US Constitution. Do you think that they do?

 

We just had a HUGE turn out in a MID-TERM election and the Democrats won LOTS of seats in the House and took back control. If the Republicans are gerrymandering to suppress votes and diversity they sure aren't doing a very good job of it are they.

 

Because they are being drawn by either party and not a "neutral commission" of both thus avoiding favoritism of just one of our two-party system ...

 

I am not a member of Daily Kos and have never paid one-cent to read an article contained.

In fact, I can see no "paywall" on the site. Though it does ask for contributions ...

 

What about the constitution are the states violating when they gerrymander?

 

Of course the NDP version is just fine.. of course...

 

If that's the case, why do democrats, when given the opportunity always work the districts to unfairly dilute minority voters? I mean, we have decades of evidence of this.

 

The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Feel free to use Google, my friend.

 

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

How does gerrymandering deny any citizen equal protection of that state's laws?