Study;' Bible more violent than the Qur’an

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For starters, there should be absolutely no doubt in anybody's mind that the current ' Culture Wars ' ( the ' War on Terror ' in pseudo-christianspeak ) was started by the West as part of its assault on those opposed to its Middle East hegemony. The depth to which this polarization has stricken Western culture to its roots was exemplified in a report I heard today concerning a slaughter of civilians in the streets of Liege, Belgium. The commentator, describing how the perpetrator had used grenades and automatic weapons against crowds of screaming, fleeing shoppers said - and I kid you not, folks, that;

" Terrorism has been ruled out "

Now, if that has gone over your head you probably agree with those members of the 'christian ' hate group pilloried by Juan Cole.

 

True Christians do not care about the moral values of the Old Testament.

That is a Jewish book, and the morals of this book were rejected by Jesus and his followers - the true Christians.

 

As to the title, if you're looking for violence in the bible you're going to have to find it prior to the new covenant of the new testament.

Or it would have to be in terms of violence against pacifistic Christians.

If by "those opposed to its middle east hegemoney" you mean "those who want to fly planes into buildings and detonate bombs to create mass murder terror attacks because we're getting in the way of their conquest and killing of those that don't agree with them" than I suppose yes.

Sure, the US likes to engage in a little hegemony. But acting like mass murder of cilivilians is a good and proper response to that? That's messed up. Seriously.

 

I think it probably started with the casting out of Ishmael.

 

The entirely Bible "violence" was only against the ancient small Palestina peoples like Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites because God had condemned them many thousands years ago.

More about here:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Bible-Quran-Violence.htm


The Quran demands killing of all non-Muslims without pardons, always and everywhere, that is the difference:

http://www.letusreason.org/islam12.htm

Any Muslim must kill non-Muslims, always, everywhere and ever!
That's Commandment of Quran.

Ask Muslims to denounce Quran Verses from above, no one will do it because otherwise he can not go to Muslim Paradise with 72 virgins due to Blasphemy and can be killed by other Muslims.


And here is an additional information about Islam!

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You are completely wrong:

2 Timothy 3:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works



Look here, only GOOD WORKS are demanded!

Because 98 % of all "churches" are practically dead you do not know it.
The True Christians study the entirely Holy Bible because it was given by God!If you looking for a good Church, read more the Holy Bible and Holy Spirit will lead you to it.

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The German "churches" are a joke because they know nothing about the Holy Bible and teach nothing!

Matthew 5:17

King James Version (KJV)

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

If you want to save your soul go and look for a good and True Church which will teach you according to the Scriptures.

Otherwise Hell will swallow you!

Read Here:

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

Go and purchase you the Holy Bible, otherwise would be too late!

 

Post at least 5 verses saying any of that.

سلام

 

Jesus (PBUH) would seem to disagree with you on that:

Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-1

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)

سلام

 

See my link # 2.

 

and another fun fact, in the modern days we live in the followers of Islam are much more violent and have killed more people than any religion. shall we make a list of Islamic attacks vs. Christian attacks and play the numbers game?

 

Study: Christians are not flying planes into buildings so it really doesn't matter what the book says.

 

There is no such thing as a Muslim American. Muslims require special treatment with their insistence on limiting the form of free speech they call blasphemy. That precludes them from being American. Only when Muslims learn to stop demanding special rights can they become Americans.

 

That's a neat trick considering that the Islamic Imperialist swine have been offensively attacking the infidel to expand dar al-Islam by the sword since the pedophile prophet had his schizophrenic delusion and thought that he talked to god herself. Not to mention the fact that it was AQ not the U.S. or the west who launched the first several attacks in this current battle in the war against the Islamic Imperialist filth.

Juan Cole is a stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) as is anyone who listens to that stupid (*)(*)(*)(*), and guess what sport? The attack in Belgium was in fact an act of offensive Jihad perpetrated by the Islamic Imperialist swine. Oh and your propaganda from Dearborn (the Islamic Imperialists' foothold in the U.S. btw) is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Mohammad (may (*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him) never said "love the neighbor" he said slay the infidel, Mohammad (may (*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him) never said "cast the first stone" he said to cast terror into the hearts of the infidel.

 

I want YOU to give me 5 or more verses.

Okay! Iraq! Afghanistan! Crusades! Native People's Massacres! Etc etc etc!

You win!

How many Muslims fly planes into buildings?

Fun fact: the first airplane high jacking took was done by a man named Byron Rickards.

Well those Muslim American's would seem to disagree with you.

So if an all-American American born and raised in America with past generations all American converted to Islam, they would no longer be American?

سلام

 

If you and Juan Cole want to jeopardize your own lives and the lives of your familes...please. Feel free. But don't ask the rest of us to commit societal and actual suicide by jihad with you.

 

Response to several attacks perpetrated by the Islamic Imperialist swine.

Defensive war in response to centuries of Islamic Imperialist expansion by the sword into the lands of Christendom.

Perhaps in South America and Mexico by the Spanish not so much in North America and it wasn't a genocide as most died of disease unlike the systematic genocide of 80 million Hindus and Buddhists on the Indian Subcontinent at the hands of the Islamic Imperialist swine.

 

Care to prove the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was any of these things?

BTW, America has been meddling in Middle East for a long time. Where do you think the motive for 9/11 came from?

You are right, he did not say "love the neighbor". What he did say is:

Narrated Abu Huraira Allah's Apostle said, "Anybody who believes in Allah and the Last Day should not harm his neighbor."

Which, clearly, means if you believe in Allah and the Day of Judgement you should slay your neighbor.

سلام

 

Jihadis are an extreme minority of Muslism, who have emerged relatively recently in a distinct political culture that could never have existed without Israeli occupation and American imperialism. That in no way excuses the actions of Jihadis. But then again, Jihadis are an extreme minority of Muslism, who tend to adhere to extraordinarily extreme brands of Wahhabist Islam(with other strands often mixed in as well). They are not simply a blight to the west, they are a blight to other Muslims as well. They don't just hate the west and Israel. They similarly hate Shiites, Sufis, and most other Muslims who they think are not real Muslims. Because of that, they feel they are justified in killing them. It is why al-Qaeda has perpetuated more attacks in Muslim countries than in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks

In fact, far, far, far more. They are blight on all people of the world, not simply on the West or Israel.

Similarly though, Israel is more of a blight on Arabs, Muslims, Persians, etc than any single Islamist group is. They have invaded their neighbors on multiple occasions over the last 30 years, and have not been invaded by any of their neighbors since 1973. They reserve the right to bomb their neighbors whenever they see fit, which they have done on numerous occasions even in countries they were not at war with. They attack aid envoys. They threaten their neighbors on a constant occasion, and yet we support them. Ultimately that support is in direct opposition to American best interests, and yet we support a apartheid state anyways. Why is that? Why do people attack Arabs and Muslims who respond to all that violence violently? Why is it ok for Israelis to kill thousands of civilians, but it is not ok for Arabs, Muslims, Persians etc to respond? Why is it ok for the US and Israel to support dictators in the Middle East who kill, torture, imprison, etc thousands of their people, but it is not ok when those people respond? It is irrational nonsense, and yet people never learn, because they buy gibberish about cultural Islamic explanations for the crises recently. Ignoring the fact that Jihadi movements are a inherently and distinctly modern movement, that exists only in response to American and Israeli actions.

Of course some will distort this and claim this is apologizing for terrorists. it isn't. Jihadists are racist Muslim supremacists with maniacal and oppressive views, but it needs to be understood why these people exist. It has absolutely nothing to do with inherently violent religion, and everything to do with a reaction to imperialism and violence perpetrated against Muslims, Arabs, Persians, etc by the US and its proxies over the last 100 years.

 

Care to provide more details?

What did Iraq and Afghanistan do to America? The war in Iraq was about invisible WMD's, and Afghanistan was unnecessarily invaded to find Bin Laden.

So defensive they slaughtered all those people after capturing it hey?

They were Christian, we're they not?

The "270 million" claim is old propaganda

سلام

 

LOL most of the deaths of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan came from the hands of psycho muslim suicide bombers, and if you havent noticed the muslims havent stopped blowing themselves up in places crowded by women and children yet.

lol are you saying the Crusades didnt involve Muslims slaughtering folks as well? i suggest you get out a history book.

Native Americans slaughtered? ah yes that lol. tell me what country or people havent slaughtered or warred with another country in its attempt at conquest. Muslims have done that since their founding.

yeah Christians had their hands in the cookie jar of blood in the past, and so have the Muslims. but the difference being is Christians have seriously slowed down on the killing in the name of God stuff, while muslims havent even come close to showing any kind of change from their old barbaric ways of trying to convert everyone by the sword.

muslims kill in the name of their god on a daily basis, their own people even.very rarily these days will you see christians blwoing up non believers in the name of religion.

you are right, i do win.

 

These crazy b@$t@rd$ have killed more Muslims than non-Muslims over the years.... And still doing it today.

They are more of a threat to Muslims in the countries they infect than non-Muslims.

سلام

 

It is amazing that people on the right are often incapable of understanding how people can be both pro-Palestine, while at the same time being unequivocally opposed to Jihadis. How they are incapable of understanding how people can be opposed to American actions in the Middle East, while still unequivocally opposing Jihadis. It is not a difficult process actually. There does not have to be a good guy and a bad guy in all narratives, and such narratives are just stupid. The reality is the fact that American policy has often been unjust, doesn't morally justify Jihadis attacking and killing innocent civilians.

 

You act like your are surprised!

As much as Christian PR would like to airbrush over it's bloody past, it cannot escape from it, and I would wager than in it's history, it has converted and killed more people, by force, violence, and torture, than any other religion, bar none.

Which makes it somewhat ironic when Christians do not look within, but are good at pointing the finger at others, and blaming them for precisely the sort of things that their own religion is culpable of.

Of course, Christians will argue that 'we are not like that today'.

Really?

Well, you know, there are quite a few people (and no, they are not Muslims or Arabs), who are of the view that for at least ten years, what we have been dragged into, at least in a large part, is some sick religous war.

Of course, Western leaders would never admit this, however, in practice, when you study it, there is a good case for saying that we have been taken into this religous war, in which Muslim nations are the routine target.

Of course, the god of the bible, esp that OT, he was a vengful, violent, jealous, and murdering god.

There is no doubt of those things, one need only look up some OT scripture, and they can soon see that 'god' testifies, through said book, to being involved in actual genocide of an entire people.

This is not to mention the plethora of other examples of quite unreasonable and often indiscrimate acts of sadism, carried out, against people.

Interestingly enough, while all of this IS the work of god, we are told, it appears that 'satan' has killed no one, not unless you wish to attribute the actions of man to satan, and make him responsible for the actions of man?

Which I think is a cop out.

 

But the OT was meant to be the word of god, through man, was it not?

I see all old religions as cults that happened to survive to the modern age.

Which, for the sake of science and reason, apart from ALL else, is something of a shame.

If we do not self destroy, I hope by the year 3000, our species may have grown up enough not to fight over whose god is most peaceful!

Or need them at all.

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They don't need to.

They can kill many more by calling it 'war', and using something better than some planes and a pair of bolt cutters.....