Supreme Court sides with GOP in Alabama election map case

Then celebrate the fact that folks in GA have far more options, and far less oppression than those who reside in NY. Try being honest. It's liberating.

 

I'm so confused, I really thought we were still discussing the SCOTUS decision for AL, but ok, whatever. Now we're on GA. And in GA, you cannot demonstrate that any voter in GA was disenfranchised, can you?

 

I think its going to take time for democrats to understand the Plantation is in peril, and their model of subjugating minorities isn't going to last much longer...

 

The Voice of Liberty is calling, Freedom is on the march!

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Number 6 is the issue in BOTH maps. In the republican version, inner city Atlanta, and all the democrats are lumped into district 7 while retaining the typical republican majority in the suburbs.

District 6 in the "non-partisan" version essentially takes away the voice of hundreds of thousands of people in the suburbs who don't go along with Atlanta democrats.

At least the first map gives everybody a voice. And what is the deal with district 7 and 2 in the second map? Can't tell me that makes sense.

Daily Kos calling anything "Non-partisan" is absolute Bull ****.

 

You can misrepresent all you want but that doesn’t make it true

 

False.

The California assembly is divided 1/3 Republican and 2/3 Democrat.

That, is, it has 19 Republicans, 1 independent and 60 Democrats.

How close do you think California could POSSIBLY make it be?

Their Senate is divided 9 Republicans to 31 Democrats - which is also close to the 1/3 to 2/3 division shown in the last presidential election.


So, there are some minorities who are less excited about Biden.

What the heck does THAT have to do with it?

 

To he clear this hold on our redistricting is because the March date that the districts must be confirmed is too close and the campaigns are already starting. This is not decided on the merits. That being said the new maps should stand instead of gerrymandered to produce race based districts.

 

The Republican version is very clearly designed to give minorities and Democrats less voice.

It does that by making it easier for Republicans to win more seats.

Your talk about land area and cities is not even slightly a valid analysis.

Again, the real telling change is the talis of the district that go northeast and due south.

This tactic can be seen in two Texas districts - 26 and 15. These are gerrymanders that aggregate areas where there is no chance that the issues are the same for those living in those districts.

https://www.texasalmanac.com/articles/texas-members-of-congress

 

They can get more by running on policies the majority of voters support.

 

Can you point to me where the constitution states congressional districts must be based on race?

 

My vote counts no more than my black neighbor here in Alabama. Our city council member does not represent them more than me nor does our state representitive nor does our mayor nor does our members of Congress.

 

Have you even bothered to read the ruling?

 

And how is it stealing a congressional seat that does not exist?

 

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I just gave the definition of a word.

Suggesting that is misrepresentation is a little silly, isn't it?

 

Well, that's certainly the fundamental of how our system was designed to work!

But, it appears Republicans are not doing so well in that category.

They promised a better healthcare system. It's been 30 years of that promise and they've had NOTHING.

They've promised a better immigration system. In that case, key Republicans and Democrats worked together to form the far superior system that became a bill in 2013. But, then the Republican party operatives refused to allow it to even reach a vote in the House, even though the bill would have passed!

Since then, we've had more of the arbitrary garbage patchwork that makes no sense, has no direction, is horrible for those coming here.

We get the government kidnapping children and ensuring their parents will never EVER find them. We've had vindictive measures against the children of undocumented aliens who had no choice in crossing borders - even ignoring facts such as military service, educational success, and other obvious contributions to our nation.

From long before Trump we're seeing Republican refusal to invest in infrastructure maintenance, education, and other keys to America's success.

Now, they want to win by assaulting representation by citizens - the rock bottom principle we fought the revolutionary war to obtain.

 

You are entirely missing the point.

Yes, the constitution does say that there needs to be equality.

But, the thing with gerrymandering is not limited to race. All races are affected. It was designed by Republicans as a way of giving Republicans disproportionately high representation and power.

Race is brought up, because it clearly does impact racial minorities - it was designed to do so.

But, that's not the full issue, very obviously.

 

Yes, your vote counts more. because the 34% Dems or Dem-leaning voters in Alabama get only 14% of the representation. How? Through gerrymandering that amplifies YOUR vote over that of the opposition.

Of course, since YOU benefit from it, you see no problem with it. Typical me, me, me Trumper anti-American behavior. Don't do what's right, but do what helps the Trump party win, no matter how unethical.

 

Great!

It's not all about you, though.

That's supposed to be the way it is for everyone.

 

You can't be serous.
CA 2020 house election:

Seats:
42 Dem << 79.2% Dem seats
11 GOP

Votes:
66.3% Dem
33.7% GOP

How did this happen?
Gerrymandering by the Democrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_California

 

But wait! There's more!!!!

2018 CA house election
Seats:
Dem: 46 << 86.8%
GOP: 7

Votes:
Dem: 65.7%
GOP: 32.6%

How does this happen?
Gerrymandering by the Democrats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_California

 

It is about the voters and citizens in Alabama of which I am one.

 

You may want to revisit after the mid-terms.

 

Nope when my black neighbor votes and I vote they count the same. How do I benefit from it more than my black neighbor? BTW my majority white city has elected a black mayor, twice in the last few years.

 

Cite the part of the Constitution that says there must be some quota in the legislatures based on race. And Gerrymandering is NOT a Republican specific issue.