Tea Party causes Payroll Tax Increase

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by BringDownMugabe, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    holy (*)(*)(*)(*) this is funny....if youre not being paid by the GOP then you should be.

    1st you compare revenue at the bottom of the recession to revenue at the peak of the bubble...ignoring that the bottom of a recession is logically goign to be lower revenue.

    then you take the peak of the bubble to claim succes in job creation.....as if we should strive to just reinflate bubble after bubble.

    im not sure if you think this argument does anything other than make other partisan hacks cheer...but its laughable at best.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    lol nope, the moment before the bubble bursts...THAT is the new norm.

    they win a million in vegas, then lose it all, but claim they are master gamblers because they won a million!
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    republican policies create jobs so long as nobody else ever wins another election.

    so if you want a one party sysytem where we forgo elections, republican policies CAN work....


    maybe
     
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    Naw,... That won't work either,... To many RINOs....

    Once the Progressives are purged from the party,...

    It might work....
     
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    We need more TEA Party members in Congress on both the Democratic and Republican sides of the isle. The Democratic TEA Party members will help the nation pursue cuts in defense spending from:
    • Redundancy of weapons and programs
    • Un-needed Foreign bases
    • Un-needed weapons platforms

    Those items alone can account for trillions of dollars in savings over time.

    The Republicans can help with the restructuring of entitlement programs that are just runaway cars taking this country off a cliff.

    By the way... this thread title is a complete lie on so many levels.

    1. The Payroll Tax DID NOT Increase
    2. The TEA Party WAS NOT responsible for the issues, they were pushing for 1 year.

    Also... this is one of those Bush Tax Cuts that the "Progressives" have whined cried and complained about until guess what.... UNTIL IT WAS ABOUT TO EXPIRE... suddenly it was vital to them. What a bunch of liars and hypocrites.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Housing was just a part of the economy and did not have to crash, the Dems and their schemes caused that to happen and they continue to prevent a housing recovery.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    dems dont control congress....the housing recovery must be the republicans fault.
     
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    Obama is the one instituting housing policy, the Senate Democrats have refused to take up Republican proposals.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Is the presidents housing policy power a new one?
     
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    Policy power, you mean to send something to Congress and they pass it? No, you didn't know President have done that throughout history?
     
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    It warms my heart to see all the Liberals line up and finally agree that allowing the Bush Tax Cuts to expire is indeed a Tax Increase for the citizens of the U.S.A. Finally, they are honest!

    Also... it is warming to see the lefties support the Tax Cut. They will make good TEA Party members yet! :)
     
  12. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    didnt the Bush tax cuts get extended for 2 years only 1 year ago?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I mean how did obama have power over housing policy but Bush didnt?
     
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    He was President and Bush wasn't. He had more votes in Congress. We didn't need a mortgage bailout in 2007.
     
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    This goes directly back to Bush. I find it so very ironic that you support his policies only now.

    Also... I am glad to see agree with the TEA Party. The fact of the matter is they wanted to extend it much longer than you. :mrgreen:
     
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    I find it very telling you either dont know or wont say.

    supporting Bush policies makes me tea party? I didnt know they were for amnesty and expanding the welfare state....maybe I should reconsider!
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/b...all&adxnnlx=1325182863-3sMUoeYn6jmZ8IFE1Px9qQ

    The authors are at their best demonstrating how the revolving door between Wall Street and Washington facilitated the charade. As Treasury secretary, Robert Rubin, formerly the head of Goldman Sachs, pushed for repeal of the (*)Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act that had separated commercial from investment banking — a move that Sanford Weill, the chief executive of Travelers Group had long sought so that Travelers could merge with (*)Citibank. After leaving the Treasury, Rubin became Citigroup’s vice chairman, and “over the following decade pocketed more than $100,000,000 as the bank sank deeper and deeper into a risky morass of its own design.” With Rubin’s protégé Timothy F. Geithner as its head, the New York Federal Reserve Bank reduced its oversight of Wall Street.

    A tight web of personal relationships connected Fannie, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, the New York Fed, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury. In 1996, Fannie added Stephen Friedman, the former chairman of Goldman Sachs, to its board. In 1999, Johnson joined Goldman’s board. That same year Henry M. Paulson Jr. became the head of Goldman and was in charge when the firm created many of its most disastrous securities — while Geithner’s New York Fed looked the other way. As the Treasury secretary under George W. Bush, Paulson would oversee the taxpayer bailout of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Goldman, Citigroup, other banks and the giant insurer American International Group (A.I.G), on which Goldman had relied. As head of the New York Fed, and then as the Treasury secretary, Geithner would also oversee the bailout.

    Many in the article are dems, but Rs had a good role in the debacle. Afterall, it was a good 20yrs in the making. 1 party didn't run the country for 20yrs. They just act like 1 party. There were many on both sides that gained plenty from the scam placed onto our idiotic voters. You and I are voters, so yes WE ARE RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!
     
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    How are those tax cuts helping? 10 yrs of cuts and we are in worse shape than we've been in for 80 yrs.
    I'm not following the logic.
     
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    Who was prez in 07?
     
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    what about 2008? was Bush not president then either? are you telling me the only housing policy the president has any power over is if we bail out mortgages???

    lmao listening to conservatives you would think Bush came into office in October of 2001 and left in December 2006
     
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    Barack Obama was willing to let the government be shut down if we didn't keep them. So you tell me how important they are?
     
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    Watching so many liberals fight for the Bush Tax Cuts is amazing.
     
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    lolthey are already kept.....the bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2012. what on earth are you talking about?
     
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    loll not as amazing as republicans SUDDENLY thinking they need to be paid for
     
  25. dairyair

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    They aren't important. I wished they'd all expired. Those cuts are hurting our deficit. They resulted in no jobs. Except during the housing boom.
    The gov't should've shut down. They have no money to operate.
     

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