Tebow headed to the Patriots

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  1. kronikcope

    kronikcope Active Member

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    And Shula signed on with the Dolphins knowning full well he and the Dolphins were in violation of the NFLs tampering regulations. Or do you think he was really that ignorant?
     
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    You do understand the difference between a team penalty and an individual?

    Losing a draft pick effects the whole team, meaning many people are culpable, especially the owner.

    A $750.,000 fine to an individual means, the individual was found responsible.

    That is not exactly chump change, even for a millionaire. 'That is a lot of money and denotes it was a serious fine. Belichick has not won an SB since the SpyGate...Tom Coughlin has beaten him twice...

    what that tells me is that it was the spying that made him the better coach,..that put him over the edge into the Win column of a Super Bowl.

    He needed to cheat to win a Super Bowl, since he has stopped cheating, he no longer wins SBs...other coaches are just as good..in fact the Patriots were the better team in these Super bowl losses...Belichick was out-coached.
     
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    Yeah, his legacy as the greatest coach in NFL History will be tarnished.

    This year his legacy will grow even bigger.
    He's done what was supposed to be impossible, he's delivered a quality team for 12 years in a row.
    In the mean time, teams that were power houses at the beginning of that period, had 3-13 seasons and become doormats, before returning to power, because top draft picks and salary caps were supposed to be the way that all teams became equal over time.
    And here's Belechick with a mostly new team of mostly no name players, again, and they will be in the playoffs, because they will be the best coached team in the NFL.
     
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    In the Super Bowl, you play a really great team.
    And in one game, any team can win.
    Belechick wasn't blown out in the Super bowl, he was in it, and but for a dropped pass or a bad bounce, he'd have won it.
     
  5. Herkdriver

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    The only thing that matters are SB rings...that's why they play.

    He has 3 and on that record alone he will make the NFL HoF...however the Patriots are basically consistent choke artists since the SpyGate scandal broke...Belichick earned the distinction of paying the highest coach's fine in NFL history...for cheating....they have not won an SB since....and won't in the near future anyway...

    The Steelers won 4 under Bradshaw, the 49ers 4 under Montana...yet you don't hear those coaches referred to as "genius"...and the only reason Belichick gets the press is because it's an East coast team..United States that is the East Coast has 1 in 3 citizens crammed into it's seaboard. 36% of population,..therefore there is a distinctive bias for East coast teams in the media to cater to the larger audience.

    There are far better dynasties in NFL history without the obvious cheating scandals tied to it....and the Patriots have lost more than they've won in games that matter...

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  6. goober

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    We'll see...
     
  7. kronikcope

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    You're being willfully ignorant. Shula was part of a cheating scandal and much as BB was, that is a fact. Shula knew what he did was wrong at the time he did it, yet that didn't stop him from talking with the Dolphins.



    LOL. Since 2007 (the cheating scandal) BB has a winning percentage higher than any other NFL coach, ever. 79%. Higher than Vince Lombardi, Madden, Shula, Allen, or Gibbs. Don't give me this BS that other coaches today are just as good.

    hahahahaha. No. They play for money. The same reason you show up for work everyday. Ask them to play for free at that level and see how many show up Monday morning.

    Yet you troll me by suggesting otherwise...
     
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    please pay attention

    I never once said that Tebow would make them a winning team. I said he would get butts in the seat, product sold and help with the attendance issue. Yes, people from that region will pay to go see Tebow. If he wasn't producing after 2 seasons then the fans would accept his release. The Jags could exploit the regional loyalty, they'd get breathing room, make money, Tebow would make money; what's the down side? Answer, there is no down side.
     
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    You pay attention. You said "They aren't going to become a winner any time soon", to which I replied "Correction - they won't become winners bringing in players like Tebow"...Needed a little help there, did ya?


    And why are they going to see Tebow, again? Do they enjoy bad QB's in Jacksonville or something?
     
  10. Jarlaxle

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    Those sour grapes smell pretty bad, dude! Envy is an ugly thing!

    The Patriots will win their division.

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    And some (many) are in the Hall of Fame! Off the top of my head: Gaylord Perry.
     
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    loyalty to a beloved local kid

    it's business and has nothing to do with being able to make a winning team within a season. They are going to lose their franchise if they don't get butts in the seats. Florida has shown itself to be more of a college football crowd. Sure, there are spurts of "support" like when the Bucs won the Superbowl but year over year, FSU, UF, and the U have been able to fill stadiums and even USF enjoyed a brief period of sell outs at Raymond James.

    The Jags are competing for football dollars and Gainesville is a short drive from the JAX area. So, do something which will make some of those folks spend some money on the Jags and bringing back the local hero would be the needed shot in the arm for a season or 2.
    Let's not forget that Savannah GA is a short drive from JAX as well and that crowd would be pulled
     
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    I'd like to point out that New England is in a weak division...by and large for over a decade...

    Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, NY Jets...

    Weak...

    Having to play these teams twice a year accounts for a large % of Belichick's victories. Plus any coach would prosper with Brady at the helm. This would be the year that Belichick can show he can do more with less. Brady has peaked, and many of the offensive weapons are gone...replaced by players having to learn a new system. If Belichick can prosper this year, I'd say that's a good indication it is indeed his coaching that puts the Patriots in the Win column...yet it still can't be denied the AFC East is beyond weak and has been so throughout the Patriots' dynasty. The only time the Patriots are truly challenged is in the Playoffs, and as of late...they lose in the Playoffs. They are no longer a sure thing...even looking at the Broncos last night...I think they will challenge the Patriots this year even with a less than stellar defense.
     
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    Maybe the east looks weak, because they have to play the Patriots twice every year.
    And that's the difference between 12-4, and a playoff appearance and 10-6, home watching the playoffs on TV.
    Weak teams get high draft picks, they get the best college players, they should have salary cap room, to bring in the best free agents.
    But it's Belechick defying the odds, being in the playoffs almost every year, and only missing it the year Brady was out for the season, and still finishing 11-5 with the backup quarterback, Matt Cassel, who hasn't done that well with other teams.
    When Peyton Manning missed a year, were the Colts 11-5?

    And back to Tim Tebow, I doubt any other team is going to pick him up, but he could be back with the Patriots, he's very athletic, and smart, he just can't pass, but if anyone can figure out how to use Tebow effectively in the NFL it's Belechick.
     
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    I believe you're just forming this opinion out of your own love for Tebow. I can't imagine any legit NFL fan is going to go the extra mile to see bad QB play because he was a good system QB in college. I know Troy Smith wouldn't have been the difference in me going to a Browns game if that's where he ended up.

    You might want to check you're Miami U attendance numbers btw. They have one of the worst fan bases in college football. Last year they averaged 46K people attending home games, and for at least one game the home crowd was vastly outnumbered by empty seats.
     
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    they weren't bowl eligible (the U)

    Tebow jerseys flew off of the rack in FL and you still see many folk wearing their Gators #15 jersey

    He would put butts in the seats. And no, I am not a Tebow loyalist.
     
  16. kronikcope

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    Neither was OSU yet they managed to average 105K...And this is not a one year fluke for Miami, its been going on the past decade.

    http://www.stateoftheu.com/2012/9/17/3346228/miami-hurricanes-attendance-the-bottom-line

    And let's just be honest with ourselves here. Tebows NFL career is over as a QB. No one is bringing in a guy as a starter who can't complete 50% of his passes and can't read a defense. Love it or hate it, it's over.
     
  17. Think for myself

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    According to reports, Tebow had no interest in switching positions.

    If he follows the path he is on, I would say his NFL career is about over.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...ow-nfl-20130906,0,2879069.story#axzz2e7sfbHFH


    By Chuck Schilken

    September 6, 2013, 7:55 a.m.

    Tim Tebow wouldn't seem to be in a position to be picky about his employment opportunities -- not after being cut by the New England Patriots days before the start of the NFL season.

    Still, if a report by Sports Illustrated's Peter King on NBC's "2013 NFL Kickoff" show is true, Tebow wanted nothing to do with an NFL team that expressed interest in him in recent days -- provided he played a position other than quarterback.

    The name of the team and the position it wanted the former Heisman Trophy winner to play were not mentioned.

    At least Tebow knows what he wants to do with his life. That's more than a lot of us can say.

    He is said to not even be considering trying to hone his craft in Canada or arena football. He wants to play in the NFL and he wants to do it as a quarterback.

    Tebow said as much in a series of tweets following his release by the Patriots last weekend. " I will remain in relentless pursuit of continuing my lifelong dream of being an NFL quarterback," he wrote.

    Well, after four seasons in the NFL, it's pretty safe to assume that Tebow doesn't have any kind of immediate cash-flow issues.

    So if he still wants to keep pursuing a job as quarterback in the most elite football league -- even after being traded by two teams and cut by another -- who are we to suggest he do otherwise?
     
  18. Right Wing

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    If I were the Packers GM (I am a Packers fan), I would attempt to pursuade Tebow to switch positions and put him in the place of A.J. Hawk. Hawk is slowing down, and Tebow is big, quick, and loves physical contact (easy there, I am talking about football, so don't get excited).
     
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    did you happen to see the results of the JAX game? For cryin out loud, give the fans something to cheer about and a reason to buy a ticket. Tebow would do that
     

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