Texas considering death penalty for abortions

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  1. tharock220

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    The fake outrage is adorable. This will never pass, and if it does will be challenged and defeated in court.

    You can clean the sand out of your vajayjay now.
     
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    Really? I live here and follow politics. This not true.
     
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    NO. We ended slavery years ago.
    You have no idea of the individual medical history of each woman. There are a dozen different risk factors that can make carrying a fetus to term problematic for the mother - from scoliosis, to high blood pressure, to mental issues ... most prescription drugs have to be discontinued during pregnancy which can be particularly dangerous for the mother.

    Again, are you willing to sign a letter that you will kill yourself if any of the women you force to carry to term die of complications?
    No? Then you have no say in the matter. It is up to the woman whose life it impacts and her doctors. End of story.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My daughter said that Christians are in an uproar about a law that makes it legal for a mother to kill her baby after it is born. I could understand this in cases where the child will not live and is horribly deformed, but I really don't know that much about it.
     
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    mistake
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The law doesn't make any distinction about whether the baby/fetus is deformed or has something wrong with it.

    I think it should, but it doesn't.
     
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    Yet you oppose laws that would require the woman's medical condition be verified to show that she actually "needs" that abortion.

    "Health" is just being used as an excuse here.
    The core of the Pro-Choice side doesn't care anything about health, that's not the REAL issue here.
     
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    Yes, and that “liberal” position is portrayed as the universal liberal position during conservative political posturing
     
  9. Daniel Light

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    The "real" issue is it's her body, her choice - regardless of the reason. Health issues are a major factor in that decision, but it's certainly NOT up to you to determine that. Whether a woman carries to term or not, it has absolutely NO impact on your life - why do you think you should have a say in that?

    And by the way - it's chicken **** to edit someone else's post. Have the balls to post the whole reply or stay away from it.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was only addressing one part of your post.
    There was nothing deceptive about it.
    No reason at all to have to quote your entire post, especially when it's a long one.

    If anyone wants to read your whole argument they can just go back to your post.
     
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  11. Daniel Light

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    It's chicken-**** to edit someone else's post.
     
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    We were a Puritanical country, and Roe vs. Wade was racist. Women who could afford abortions and didn't want to go to a butcher, (and there were plenty), could leave the country, but blacks were too poor to do so. The fear was that blacks would gain a majority and control.

    When I was on the grand jury in Court Street in Brooklyn, there were speakers telling the black women Roe vs Wade was passed so they wouldn't have kids, and to have as many as possible - and they did whether they were married or not. Illegitimacy became acceptable, and it started the break down in the black families.

    Abortion is a societal problem. How can you tell kids that it's okay to jump from one bed into another - as they are doing today, and then tell them they can't have an abortion when they're pregnant? To be honest, I blame the Catholic Church more than anything else. Had they not frightened the feminists with their constant harping against Roe vs Wade, they wouldn't have put so many liberal judges on the bench. It's those judges that changed the US from a highly moral nation into one with no moral boundaries what-so-ever.

    I heard Rand Paul say the same thing, that abortions can't be stopped without a change in the society.
     
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    Liberals are like a circus freak show

    If the bearded lady is a reliable vote for the democrat cause then the snake charmer and fire eater and mermaid will go along with whatever her pet issue is
     
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    No it's not. There can be some legitimate practical reasons for doing so.

    I didn't change your post, I just selected one of the statements in your post.

    Is there some reason you feel that particular instance was deceptive or misleading?

    I really hate it when there's a very long OP and someone lazily chooses to press the "Reply" button and quote the entire post to say something very short.
     
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    Do Progressives have any defense other than "This will be defeated in court" ?
     
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    And conservatives are different?
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    That appears to be a...hold on democrats, here comes a scary word...family. Notice as well that they are all standing around smiling, not foaming at the mouth and trying to bite people's fingers off.
     
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    Unlike democrats that is not their udual appewrance
     
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    How would that work?
     
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    The circus freak show is you stating "defacto" that a single human cell and an "innocent human child" - emphasis on the whine - are the same thing.

    Oh Oh .. its an "Innocent human child" - how could anyone kill an innocent human child ?
     
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    Ok I have limited interest in this as it ought to be obvious that there is not going to be a law which allows women to get off with killing their new born babies. It appears to be simply that New York has made a slight change and allows an abortion after 24 weeks 'if the mother's life is at risk' or if the fetus is not viable. The 'if the fetus is not viable' appears to be the new bit. How this manages to become a law to allow Mothers to kill their new born babies, as if they would want to, I do not know.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-york-abortions-birth/
     
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    It's more than this. The law is worded in such a way that NY has given the green light to go ahead with abortions at any point in the pregnancy with no real check on whether that will be for health reasons.
    And the law even has a preamble that says it's her right, so seems designed to let them all know there won't be any prosecutions on healthy mothers with healthy normal fetuses.
    It doesn't even have to be a medical doctor who decides the abortion should be done, under this new law.
     
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    Partial birth abortions are still going on in NY. The only difference now is that the inject the fetus with a long needle to knock it dead or near dead before it comes out and they do the gruesome deed of making extra sure it's dead.

    The fetus might have had a disability like Down syndrome or a misformed leg.
    Now they even have an intrauterine test for Autism, so I'm sure there will be some abortions in the near future for that.
     
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    Moronic joke.
     
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    Worried it could be a viable idea?
     

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