The Basics, Abortion is a Homicide, Face that Fact

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A beating heart is made up of many cells and supplies blood and oxygen to a "life".
     
  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    A beating heart may be alive but it isn't A life as in A person.
     
  3. kazenatsu

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    It's a sign of life. Things with a beating heart are generally still alive.

    Your argument seems to be an alive human being is not a person.
     
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  4. FoxHastings

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    Not until it's born....how many times do you have to be told? is there a problem?
     
  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not until it's born because an angry feminist says so!!!
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    GoodGAWD! No, DUHHHHHH, because the Supreme Court said so, the Constitution, the law of the land says so....

    You thought a feminist said a person has no rights until they're born and made it law!!! ??LOL! Hilarious....

    I thought you showed up with no ammunition...LOL...

    LOL! Too bad for you ya can't blame everything on feminists :)..those 'evil women" who frighten you so much :roflol::nana:



    Having trouble with post 448 ?...:)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hiding behind the Supreme Court are you?
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    You DO have a sense of humor ! That's hilarious.... SHHH, don't tell anyone but a whole lotta Americans "hide" behind the SC and the laws that protect us.
     
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have absolutely no trouble with angry feminists that roll on the ground and feign childish laughter. They are dinosaurs of the past. They are :Weinstein groupies".
     
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    A zygote is human life. I agree that it is not a human. You must have misunderstood my post.

    Anti aborts argue that the zygote is a human ... a "Homo sapiens". I disagree with this claim.
     
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    The same was said by the slave owners. So, you are in good company, and not really any different from those people, in the past.

    It was apparently also legal within germany to mass murder the jews. gypsies and others. So using your argument, it is legal, has nothing to do with what is right and what is wrong. It has nothing to do with basic morality and human decency.

    Atrocities have been committed throughout history and they were legal. So hiding behind what is legal has been done by evil men throughout history.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Equating what slaves, BORN people, went through to a quick , painless death of a fetus is deplorable.

    YOU are in good company as you want to make women into nothing more than slaves to your wishes...







    To compare what Jews and others, actual BORN people, suffered at the hands of Nazis with the quick painless death of a fetus is quite sickening.

    Minimizing what they went through to make some irrelevant point is despicable.



    Laws have to do with rights, rights were taken from Jews and slaves as YOU wish to do with women.

    Laws have to do with rights, NOT YOUR idea of "morals".




    There's no hiding. I stand right out in the open with my defense of women's rights.

    YOU are not the ruler of right and wrong, thank goodness....

    Yes, atrocities have been committed against women throughout history as if they had no rights. It included the maimings and death from unsafe abortions before they were legal.....is THAT what you want to go back to????? Seems to be.
     
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    Incorrect. Murder is the illegal killing of a person by a person. 1.the zef is not a person and 2. abortion is not illegal. Therefore, abortion is not murder.
     
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    That's a reflex action.
     
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    Hypothetical for the forced birth fetishists to ponder:

    You're trapped in a burning fertility clinic with an infant. You can either rescue the infant, or the 1,000 FERTILIZED VIABLE embryos the clinic houses. Which do you choose to save and why?
     
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    You sure love that question.
     
  17. Hairball

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    Interesting????

    Try super scumbaggery.
     
  18. Phyxius

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    Complete dodge. Try again. Completely generic scenario, then - given the choice of saving 1,000 embryos or 1 single infant (no method of destruction given, no choice but the value you place on the 'lives' in question) which would you save and why?
     
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    Curious...how many of you are men ? I fear uterus envy
     
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    You know that could change right? I will take sir the right senators and congressmen voting to pass legislation and the right president to sign it. Or the right Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe v Wade.
     
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    Men don't have the right to kill babies. That's female privilege. If we are in that situation we have to think before we Act. And we are asking is that women be equal.
     
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    Cannot compare fetuses to humans kidnapped from their homes and forced into slavery.

    OP - No, its not homicide because a fetus is not a human being.

    Like it or not, abortion is a constitutional right.
     
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    Interesting to see how many avoid this question or make fun of it. The pro-birthers say they believe a fetus is a human being. Where is their belief that they would be saving 1000 human beings?
     
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    I can compare a human life to other human lives. That is all that I did. But hey, sometimes the simple thinking is the valid thinking. An organism is either alive, or it is dead. That is our experience of reality. A human fetus, is either alive or it is dead. A fetus is a life, if alive, and it is not a life, if dead. But it was a life if the sperm fertilized the egg, both living organisms, and more so if it created an organism which then being alive began its development into a human being. It was a human life and not a cat's life, when it began its growth, and it is a human life when expelled from the womb, able to breath and continue in its development.

    Now, this does not mean I think abortion, unless it is an abortion done when the baby could have survived with medical help, outside of the uterus, should be illegal. I would not want to punish people by aborting a fetus early on in development, although I still think they just killed a human life. But aborting late term should be illegal, IMO. For if you or we insist on abortion, there has to be clear lines in place as to when it can no longer be done, IMO. For killing a late term infant is the same as killing an infant after it is born. IF, the infant could have lived with medical help outside the mother and continue it development. Yes, I can see the hypocrisy in my stance on this, given it is a human life even before it can survive outside the mother. So guilty as charged, if you wish to do so.
     
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    So, a late term infant, is not a human being. If they are not one, then neither are you.

    Yes, the humans kidnapped by their own race, and forced into slavery were human beings with life in them, just like an unborn human being.

    I don't see that specific right in the bill of rights. Point it out to me, for I missed it.

    In my book, anyone who would kill an innocent unborn human, and use abortion as birth control, instead of being responsible and using birth control, is a POS. And a murderer and should be sterilized so she cannot do it again. She ain't worth locking up, but as a society we should make sure she only gets to murder one innocent human being. Perhaps this would force these irresponsible females into using birth control.

    So, would you take the job of killing late term infants, if the pay was good? Hold up em by their legs and bash their brains out? After all you would not be killing a human being. So it should be no problem for people who agree it is fine to kill them. If it is a problem them I see hypocrisy.
     

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