The Basics, Abortion is a Homicide, Face that Fact

We all have a comfort level that dictates our level of hypocrisy.

There's no such thing as '9th month abortion'. That's called birth. Late term abortion is done ONLY when the fetus is severely malformed with little to no chance of survival. It is especially done when it is known the resultant baby would suffer needlessly. We offer that to our pets but we are against it for fellow human beings. Keep in mind too that while we say we are terribly concerned about pain the fetus might feel, there are still surgical procedures done without anesthesia on very young babies. Where is the outrage?

What idiot trump referred to during the campaign - he called it "partial birth abortion" has long been illegal. It is not done. Period.

Abortion has been done since the first pregnancy. Okay, maybe the second. Its not going away. We have the capability to make it painless and cheap and that's what we should do.

 

No one uses abortion as birth control. Think about it. Stop being a reactionary fool and just give it a moment's thought.

Abortion is expensive. Its miserable. No one wants to have an abortion.

As for locking up those who have had an abortion - I'll bet you have never lost a baby. You have no clue.

No baby is ever held up by their legs and had their brains bashed out. From your post, its obvious that you know no facts about abortion and would force a baby to suffer horribly. I'll bet, if you ever had to make this decision, you would reluctantly choose to what is best for that baby.

If you want to know where it is guaranteed in the US Constitution, look it up. With your mouth, your lies, your attitude, I can't say I am particularly disposed to educate you.

You're free to hold any opinion you wish but the bottom line is that abortion is the woman's decision. She owns her body just as you own yours. She decides when she will reproduce, just as you do. MYOB

 

That's not true. Every woman is not as responsible as you.

 

Women can’t kill “babies “ either, it’s against the law.why not call it a toddler, you can get more emotional mileage . How can it be equal? It would be equal if a man carried a fetus for nine months and gave birth and nursed.

 

Yes we women love having a painful abortion as a form of birth control. We just love the awful cramping, (sarcasm alert)

 

no It is equal to suggest both sexes are required to take responsibility.

I view abortion as murder.

 

So? Why haven't they despite all their promises to gullibles voters who vote for them because they say the're against abortion???

WHY HAVEN'T THEY?


FIRST: Politicans LIKE sucking in gullible voters by using that promise....if they delivered how else would they get the votes of the stupid?

SECOND and it's a doozy: You need a reason to take away women's rights and overturn RvW......gotta come up with a reason to destroy the rights of 51% of the population and that isn't easy...

 

Well, too bad for you, the law doesn't

 

What are you blathering about, women don't have a right to kill babies.

And you feel men , who have killed babies, women, pregnant women, children and each other since the beginning of time aren't getting a fair shake??

 

You: ""But aborting late term should be illegal, IMO"


WHERE have you been? It IS illegal.

My GAWD! You didn't know that 23 weeks is the cut off by law and abortions after that can only be done if the life/health of woman or fetus is an issue..

You didn't KNOW that?????

NO, killing a alte term fetus for whatever reason is NOT the same as killing a BORN PERSON.

The fetus has NO rights until birth.

It does have protection as I showed you above.

 

No, it's NOT A human (noun) being as in "person with rights". It is human (adjective)

If Anti-Choicers could tell the difference between adjectives and nouns their little lives would be easier.

NOPE they were BORN so should have had rights....unborn humans have no rights.

Your feelings about women are noted.....and in return please note no woman cares what you think of her and your casting the first stone.

How about stoning her to death like your counterparts in ME countries do?

OK, show proof of anyone doing that in a late term abortion or admit the obvious, you are lying.

And that you need to lie because you have no facts to back up any of your crap.

WHERE are these people you claim exist?

 

Some women do use abortion as a form of birth control, if they get pregnant , they get an abortion.




NO one is obligated to use birth control.

 

And if they did t? Sometimes heat of the moment clouds the brain,,,,who makes the final decision?

 

When the logical Arguments are lost, the anti-choice people resort to a woman “having an abortion a minute before the baby is born” as though that is the norm. Maybe we should not allow any guns because mass shooters can get them (tongue in cheek)

 

Uh, I was addressing those that believe in late term, and if they could get their way, that is what we would have. Have you not paid attention to this group?

 

So are wars and so are sentences carried out on death row. Get over it.

 

That is an extremist view, they will not get their way.
Know why? It's common sense, apply it.

Do you really think women of sound mind would undergo 9 months of pregnancy just for the "fun" of having a abortion?

IF a woman came to a hospital demanding an abortion at 9 months she wouldn't get it , she'd get a psyche evaluation.


Canada has no abortion laws and women don't flock to have abortions at 9 months...



NO ONE "" Hold up em by their legs and bash their brains out?""


Do you think lying improves your credibility? It doesn't.

 

Late term just isn't at 9 months, right?

If you think I actually believed we hold em by the legs and bash their brains out, well, you do not understand hyperbole. Intentionally not understanding it so you could accuse me of lying. So, how would you end a life, IF, some on the left were to get their way, with late term abortions? Not that way of course but potential suffering would be avoided.

In principle, I think abortions used as irresponsible birth control, by irresponsible human beings is wrong morally. And that will never change for me. But I do not draw these arbitrary lines that we have to draw in order to dehumanize a human life so we can say we did not murder an innocent defenseless human life. These arbitrary lines are drawn to make those who will kill the unborn feel better about it and for no other reason, IMO. For I think a developing human life is just that, a human life. And sue me, but I value human life. And what is killed is life. And it is not a dog or a cat's life being taken. But then again, I have a moral compass that values all of human life. And understand that the arbitrary lines which are drawn are arbitrary, a creation of thought.

So you can argue, and call me names if you desire, and yet there is no way you can change my mind. For I do not think logic nor basic morality is on your side of the fence. But the support for irresponsible human beings who want to resort to this from of post impregnation birth control is not something I will ever do, unless the life of the mother is at risk. A conundrum such is this is where I would side with the life of the mother.

 

Oh, I understand hyperbole and the need for it when one lacks FACTS

NO, that is what YOU wrote.....you should've indicated you were not being honest, you didn't.

If there was a problem indicating that a late term abortion needs to take place the method they use are fine with me because I KNOW they don't dangle them by their legs and bash their brains out.

You are entitled to YOUR morals, you do NOT get to dictate other's morals.

"We" don't dehumanize life. A fetus is alive. And every woman knows that is what is being killed.

And it is NOT murder. YOU may call it anything you want but that won't change anything.

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Then I assume you are totally against war that kills "life", babies, fetuses, pregnant women, children ...all innocent but called by war advocates "collateral damage" to make them feel better.

NO one said it's a dog or cat....is that more of your dishonest hyperbole?


AND I do NOT need your form of morality on my side, I have logic, facts and law on my side.....I don't need hyperbole

Good to know you side with women on one thing...and good to know they don't care but do what they choose.

 

You only have the law on your side. That is all. And a lack of a basic value for human life. No problem for me, as the world has many just like you. I accept it. As I accept all other evils, as a fact of human existence. But I do not have to like it. And neither do I have to agree with the evil involved.

But if you must have the last word, go ahead and post again, and I will give you what you need. And I do not mind doing that.

 

And that is enough.....you can denigrate law all you want , it's still the law.

No where have I indicated that....I value the lives of all so much I will defend their rights....you wish to destroy rights which isn't a sign of caring about lives.

You have that right as long as you don't try to impose your feelings/ideas/morals on others.

Truth should always be the last word.

 

Gee the Terminating a pregnancy is “evil”? No, depriving born children of health care is evil...cutting education is evil. A 1/10of one ounce fetus is not a child....

 

Laws change

 

The final decision being the act of sex, both do.

 

What law? The one that says we ALL have rights?

Why do you think that would change?