The beginning of the end of free speech

Are you Christian? If yes, be better very silent about blaming other religions like Islam about tolerance / intolerance, as well violence! And also if dealing with a so-called Prophet, or god ... you think the so-called son of god is better or something different?

And about violence, the Christians are same way violeant in their so-called "holy book" called bible. You will answer with that the so-called New Testament is not? Sure, but Christians always forget that the Old Testament is same way valid for them ... or since when are parts of it like this fairy tales of the so-called Genesis suddenly not part of the Christian religion?

And I as atheist must teach you about this all? Really?

 

The German perspective on freedom of speech is the far smarter and better one, because we have a higher value as this: The dignity of human is untuchable! And also we do not allow scum from right and left to abuse their constituional right of freedom of speech to attack the constitution who grants this right ... and I talk about scum who does not want to give freedom of speech at all in their political view! This scum has no rights - point!

And about pedophile acting, I recommend you to be completely quiet and ashamed in the USA! Why?

https://www.watchdog.org/national/a...cle_fbefbf04-5d0e-11e8-b6e6-cb9d5643bc13.html

The USA are the world champion in pedophile acting ... and this as Christians! Nice, isn't it?

 

And we are very succesfull to hold up our values and to fight this populist scum at least ... and not being to idiotic like the Americans who cheer the worst piece of **** what ever moved into the White painted house!

 

You said you don't understand these two sentences:
1) Books don't change, spirits do.
2)The fundamentalist believes the book is perfect.

A simple Google search of the quote attributed to "Paul" produces 2 Corinthians 3:6 in the first links.

I will go with you are doggy.

 

I am defending Freedom of Speech to denigrate any religious figure, to claim they are unworthy of worship, to say that the books are bad, and to say that they are fairy tales; I do so because I am a Christian; Christ was killed for speaking.

You as an atheist still have not answered the question:

"How the hell do you determine a 'fact kernel,' when dealing with whether someone, a so-called 'Prophet,' or god, should be worshiped or not?"

 

And yet, here you are giving communists a pass by claiming it's only the Right who suppress free speech.

 

No, it is not the same way valid, it is about laws, we are about following the Holy Spirit, and Who are you to say it is?

 

Yes, I think it does get tedious Fred. But perhaps is because the US always keeps flexing the same muscles and starts the same sort of destructive wars?

That, at least, is how I see it. I would love to see the US stop all this international bullying sh*t and rejoin the commonwealth of nations as a respected member working for the greater good.

.... and then I woke up!

 

The Christians didn't exist in the Old Testament, like you said, you should have stopped with "Sure," because that is where you KNOW the New Testament is not violent like the Old, which the Koran claims is valid (like you do) and where it gets all its violence from by not understanding the difference:

"[5.46] And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).

[5.47] And the followers of the Injeel should have judged by what Allah revealed in it; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the transgressors.

[5.66] And if they had kept up the Taurat and the Injeel and that which was revealed to them from their Lord, they would certainly have eaten from above them and from beneath their feet there is a party of them keeping to the moderate course, and (as for) most of them, evil is that which they do

[5.68] Say: O followers of the Book! you follow no good till you keep up the Taurat and the Injeel and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the unbelieving people."

 

Eat one for me. I'm on a diet.

 

Really now?

Is the Old Testament part of the Christian Religion? YES!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who this denies has no clou, because then he denies everything what is written in Old Testament has to do with the Christian Religion. You know the Genesis? So Genesis is not part of Christian Religion? Abraham, Moses and whatever else uninteresting and not existing in Christian religion? Come on ...

 

Because this is not the fact kernel as you think?

 

Apparently, also an example of hate speech:

In regard to the complaint about the dis-proportionally high % of gun-related murder victims being black…

54% of the murders in the US are committed by Blacks, most usually in large cities run by Democrats – thus, the "problem” you lament here has nothing to do with gun control.

… is a racist , hateful statement

 

I don't know about that, but I find it to be a woefully ignorant statement for its erroneous conclusion. It has everything to do with gun control, specifically the lack of it as enforced by the 2nd Amendment and the SCOTUS.

 

The Christians co-opted these Jewish texts and ideas in their bastardized new solar worship religion.

 

How does is fact that blacks commit 54% of all murders related to gun control?
What gun control law will lower this %?

 

That is a statistic that leaves out a hell of a lot. You know full well it's due to gang violence.

 

You must have missed questions I asked.
I'll ask again:
- How does is fact that blacks commit 54% of all murders related to gun control?
- What gun control law will lower this %?

 

You have no clue; the Old Testament is NOT part of Christianity. There is no logical reason whatsoever to refer to the Old Testament books when discussing Christianity with someone who is NOT a practicing Jew. No Christian would quote anything from the Old Testament to explain Christianity to an atheist.

Who did they claim was their father, which prompted Jesus to say the following?

John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.”

Should be easy, since you are TELLING me.

 

I think you are confused by the Black Stone Idolatrous Islamic moon cult, or you have been watching too much Star Trek.

 

You got to be kidding me that the old and the new testament is not part of the same religion as far as Christians are concern.

 

Nope, Jesus is a solar allegory. Not even Islam can claim to have that. Whatever they worship, it's not a solar allegory. But they did similarly rip off old Jewish texts and ideas. Religions always do this, so it's nothing to get too upset about. Judaism no doubt drew on past religious ideas and traditions in its time. Newer religions/cults have ripped off biblical and Christian texts and ideas in like fashion. Mormonism is to Christianity as Christianity is to Judaism, roughly speaking.

 

Good question!!!

Is their another way besides competing ideologies and empires who see all competitors as existential threats to be demonized and in constant conflict with?

 

No, I am not kidding:
“8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+15:8-9&version=KJV

I quote those because you totally blew it, his followers were accused of NOT following Judaism, and Jesus then turned the tables on them, he did NOT say in any way that Scripture is the commandment of God.

 

Maybe you need a dictionary, Jesus has nothing whatsoever to do with the sun.