The Catholic Church is a criminal organization...

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  1. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Go back and proofread this and try it again. This is a disaster. Then we'll correct your second try at English.
     
  2. Anobsitar

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    Scripture? Is this something to eat?

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  3. Sean Michael

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    I do not know what you are trying to say here. Jesus was Mary's first born son, he was alos her only son. This proves nothing this is just a statement. If your mother only concieved you, you would still be her first born son, regardless if she has any children after you or not.

    By the way this topic is being discussed on a different thread.

    What is supposed to be discussed here is whether or not the Catholic Church is a criminal orginisation or not.
     
  4. Sean Michael

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    Some of what I have written in reply to your post is in the blue bit.
     
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    You don't seem like a rational individual at all……I can understand a little now why so many former Catholics turn atheist say some of the things they say about Christianity….thank God I know better. How can Jesus be Mary's first born and be her only born? Being first means that there are others that came after.

    They would not say I was my mother's first born if I was her the only one. Without others that follow or would follow there would be no need to say first born. So if Jesus was Mary's only child they would not have used the Greek word prōtotokos which means first-born or first-begotten. The Greek word for only is monogenēs and it is used in John 1:18 (KJV)
    18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.


    Just pointing out another error that the Catholic Church teaches, but I don't expect you to be able to see the error because you have been indoctrinated to see only what they tell you to believe. But I hope that at least others will see what I have been pointing out.
     
  6. Sean Michael

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    Being first does not mean there is others born afterwards. If a woman was in hospital and gave birth, and a nurse asked "how many do you have", and she said "this is my first". this does not mean it will also not be her last.

    So God the son has biological siblings, what are they then demi-gods?.
    this is the height of absurdity, tell me who is Jesus' siblings then?.
    Those in the Bible that some Protestants claim as His siblings are quite evidently and easily proven not to be.
    Martin Luther and John Calvin both accept Mary remained a virgin, and they are 2 of the founding fathers of Protestantism. This is only a recent notion people decided to believe Mary did not remain a virgin.

    You are the one who is indoctrinated with hatred of the Church, form which your own belief comes. The Church that is the mother of all Christianity. The Church Jesus promised He would be with unitl the end of ages. The Church that provided you with the Bible.

    However you can be like all other Protestants and just take the bits and peices you like from the one true Church and set aside those that do not fit with your own personal theology.

    Some Protestants believe Baptism is neccessary, some believe in the real presence in the Eucharist, some believe Mary remained a virgin, etc, etc. Every protestant church has bits of Catholicism in it, they just throw out the bits they don't like. I also notice that when I debate with Protestants who have very conflicting views to each other, they do not attack each other, instead they would focus their arguing against Catholicism. This to me is very unusal, I have debated with people who claimed baptism is unneccassary and a baptist being alongside them, never corrected the other Protestant even though this is one of the most fundamental principles of their faith. When I pointed this out to the baptist, the replied that they did not care so long as they were attacking my Catholic point of view. This to me was not someone seeking truth, but someone who had hatred for the Catholic Church.
     
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    Mary was married to Joseph remember? So the other children that Mary gave birth to were children of Joseph......Jesus was there half brother.

    I challenge you to show me in the Bible where the term first born was applied to children that were their parents only born.
     
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    It's not important wether one or all Catholics are right or wrong - this helps you nothing.

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    So did Sadaam Huesein and Moamar Ghadaffi....Fat lotta good it did them.
     
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    Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)
    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

    Reprove:elenchō = to confute, admonish :- convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.


    But of course there comes a time when one has to stop beating a dead horse.
     
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    Just curious.
    Is english a second language for you?
     
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    You are right: The USA is able to conquer the Vatican and to kill Benedict XVI.

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    Follow God's example, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for the Lord's people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: no immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no-one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said: 'Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.' Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is. Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. http://youtu.be/G1si-PPX3n4
     
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    That's what I do.
     
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    Barely, the way you use it and write it.
    That's why I asked.
    If it is I will have some sympathy.
    If not, your lack of education is quite apparent and helps to explain your arguments.
     
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    How many languages do you speak, Bwana?

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    I was asking you a serious question.
    Is it a second language for you?
     
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    Counterquestion: What did you not understand?

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    I did not understand that when asked a simple question, you asked if English was a language, how many languages I speak, but never answered the question as to whether or not English is a second language for you.
     
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    I'm a German - what do you expect?

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    I don't know. I my profile is nearly no information but "Germany" is written there.

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