The creeping fascism of Donald Trump

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  1. Le Chef

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    The problem is the slippery slope. Some regard it as a fallacy. But is it? We've gone from the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness to a right to education, then to a right to government provided health care, to abortion, to sex change. Prisoners have sued for the right to a sex change operation behind bars. And won. Michael Dukakis ran on the right to decent affordable housing. He lost ultimately, but he got the Democratic nomination and a lot of votes. Many prominent Democrats are now arguing for the right to a university level education. Will it stop there? How about a Masters and then a PhD? Why not? How about a right to a vacation? 6 weeks like in France? How about the right to leisure as is guaranteed in one of the European charters ... commission on human rights, I think.

    What about decent affordable clothing, haircuts, an automobile and a gym membership? Why not? Those are all good things. How about karate lessons? Or are you saying people don't even have the right to learn to defend themselves?

    Shouldn't government do everything possible to insure that everyone have all this stuff and more? Isn't it mean spirited and even racist to say no, if the stats show that minorities aren't getting as much?
     
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    There are many among us who would be happy as a pig in slop to live in the Soviet Union circa 1960.
     
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    You'll have a hard time soundly demonstrating that more than three are true for Trump.

    Note the word "demonstrate" - it means you don't get to use your opinions, suppositions, or fallacies.
     
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    Big Government factions may compete with each other, but they all belong on the same end of the political spectrum. For instance, the distinctions between National Socialism and "Socialism In One Country" have always been minor, and over time they have almost entirely faded away.
     
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    In their minds - the reality would really bite.
     
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    "Government is at best a necessary evil." The American position on government.
    Also the Marxist position on government.
     
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    Don't know anything about Breitbart or Gateway Pundit. NEVER go to either for info.
    That's your canned, prejudice against Republicans rearing it's ugly head.
    The Progressive movement is a Socialist movement. That in and of itself is a danger to America.
    As I correctly pointed out, Cuba and Venezuela embrace Socialism.
    FDR was a Progressive and did tremendous damage to Liberty and the Constitution.
    If I'm not mistaken, he was quite the racist also.

    You fail to understand basic economics. Most of the nations you will mention as having Universal healthcare
    rely on the US military umbrella for protection and have very limited self defense budgets....freeing up money for social programs, which are horrible at best.
    Medicare and Welfare for all schemes are not free. The money for them does not grow on trees.
    The idea of security for all of humanity is unfortunately a fantasy.
    The entire Progressive movement is predicated on unsustainable and unreasonable ideals.

    Sure. "Sensible",.... meaning a Progressive march to disarming Americans. Got it.
    Sorry, not buying that.

    We don't need Progressives for that. All of those laws already exist.
    My God, you folks make it sound like Republicans are some kind of evil monsters or something.
    For the record, the DEMOCRAT party has historically been the party of Racism.

    Progressives are on the left. Please don't try to sugar coat the Progressive intent.
    The intent is the TRANSFORMATION of America into a Socialist state, using it's wealth to provide welfare for the world.......or at least appear that way.
    I say the real intent is centralization of power into the hands of a few.

    You tell me. I never said they couldn't. But your side says we MUST have a "diversity" of Presidents which is ludicrous. We need a Fair and Competent president (like Mr. Trump).

    Again, Progressives cannot comprehend BASIC ECONOMICS. Your plan would ultimately lead to less for EVERYONE.
    Capitalism and PERSONAL gain is the motivation behind productivity and wealth (for all)

    You tell me. Show me where I said otherwise. Again, competency and putting America first are my ONLY guidelines.

    PLEASE. Progressives are ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL. See FDR.
    Just stop with the nonsense already.
    Save if for the Uber idiot young people coming out of indoctrination centers.


    Thank you for proving my point.
    Have you ever researched the Netherlands defense budget?
    Currently, the Netherlands spends approximately 1.5 billion euros on defense, a lot less than what the NATO norm of two percent dictates.Mar 4, 2020

    NO WONDER they have more money to spend on social programs. LIKE I SAID ABOVE.
    If the US's defense budget was paid for by other nations, I'm sure we'd have more welfare available.

    SUMMARY: Fascists, big government loving, Socialist Progressives can go to hell.
     
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    Not just a fascist but a NAZI!:roll:
     
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