I’m down. You have any idea what will happen with the black population? I’m so ****ing down lol You have any idea how much it would help promote traditional families and traditional family values? I’m so down. Oh and btw how are your lesbians gonna get pregnant?
No but a have a very accurate idea of how this would be accepted by the MAGA a and the far right - you know, the ones that found masks and vaccines to be too onerous and invasive?
If we were as racist and hate filled and Christian zealots as y’all claim. It really wouldn’t be much of a problem to convince them. The black population would essentially drop to nothing and Hispanic populations would decrease drastically. Lesbians would find it FAR more difficult to have a baby. Christianity and family values would explode through the roof.
I think there will be groups who may object in all areas of America As for Lesbians - same way they would now - sperm donor
Nah. Won’t have hardly any sperm donors because men won’t have sperm to give you except the precious little they have in whatever testtube they made when they were 13.
I stopped reading there. You don't know what you're talking about; you can remedy that by reading a couple medical ethicists on abortion.
Your point about circumstances is true, and much more important than many think. Long ago, I had a friend who was catholic, had 3 children, and was a card-carrying bumper-stickered anti abortionist. She also had a brutal and abusive husband- and decided she must divorce him to survive. With help, she moved out to a "safe house". He found her, beat her up and raped her- and impregnated her. She had several conversations with me on this, but eventually decided she could not tolerate that pregnancy nor ever be able to love a child produced that way. She asked me to take her to a distant clinic for an abortion. It's easy to pass judgement on others when you are not in their shoes. When she found herself in that place she had always criticized,she was confronted by things she never thought of or gave any value to before. There is no joy in abortion, it's tragic either way- and always a hard decision with consequences the woman will never forget, regardless of the decision. It has to be hers.
Pretty sure it’s the left wing ho’s out there that are far more likely to get pregnant and have an abortion. So sounds like we just need to force the Libs to have vasectomies. As soon as a male comes out as liberal he has to get his balls snipped. Not that he had any to begin with but what little ones they can find up in his stomach.
Give your friend a hug from me and you get one too for being so supportive and a staunch ally when she needed it most
So first off that sucks what happened to ur friend. Second, insofar as your point was concerned, very few conservatives have a problem with abortion for rape. The number of which who do have a problem with it is minuscule. Third I’m going to have a o disagree with you on your last claim that: “There is no joy in abortion, it's tragic either way- and always a hard decision with consequences the woman will never forget, regardless of the decision.” So how do you reconcile that with the women out there running around with T-shirt’s advertising how many abortions they’ve had? Some of them claiming to have had as many as 20 or 30 abortions. Was it a hard decision for them or were they simply using abortion as a form of birth control?
Got another question for you. Those women running around with those “I’ve had 22 abortions” (or whatever) tshirts on… Let’s assume that Ho gets pregnant again (which I don’t think would be a far stretch) and she’s fixing to go get herself abortion number 23 (which btw makes her a mass murdering serial killer but I digress). Now on the way to killing her 23rd child, she gets assaulted in the gas station parking lot and as a result loses the baby. She can, and almost assuredly would, have that man who assaulted her charged with murder for killing her baby. If that’s the case, which it is, on WHAT GROUNDS do you or ANYONE ELSE assert that her getting an abortion on that EXACT SAME BABY at the EXACT same date of pregnancy isn’t murder? (Not to mention the 22 she murdered before that).
Don’t want one. Kthanksbye. you want men to stop impregnating hundreds of women? Take away their horny penis’ ability to do so.
I said I’m down for that but women would have to do the same to make sure recanalization didn’t happen resulting in an unwanted pregnancy. You’re the one balking at it. Not me.
The matter of losing babies to abortion has been rendered quite academic by the high rates of spontaneous abortions caused by the clot shots. With about half the younger women now injected, more than half of them have likely been rendered sterile, or at least unable to carry a baby to term. I think the future might very well be like that portrayed in A Handmaid's Tale.
Nope what? I said I thought it was a good idea. It would result in a massive decrease in the black and Hispanic populations, a relative increase in the white populations, it would incentivize traditional families and traditional family values (possibly even a return to the church for the populous) and as an added bonus, lesbians would find it almost impossible to get pregnant. I think it’s a good idea. But the women have to join us in this endeavor and get their tubes tied.
No value, no human quality is universal. But the worst of us should not set the standards or paths for the rest of us. Sooner or later in life, most people come face to face with the way they have lived- and even though they may have thought their past behavior acceptable or justifiable at the time, came to understand how sorry it was. Maturing does this to all. Those who learn from it grow to be better human beings; those who do not continue to be the dregs of society. While my friends situation could be described as rape- it was also by her legal husband, and a lot of people would reject the rape category too. However I don't think that the decision to abort should hang on qualifications about how the pregnancy came about. I don't think people not directly involved should have any part of the decision. I often think too many people that feel righteous about defending "life" are not concerned about the quality of life- and that is a huge part of the question abortion is about and indeed about the purpose of all our lives. There are times and conditions where a child would be born into hopeless poverty, with no role models or values in the environment- and nothing there to teach them, prepare them to cope with life. The most critical years in shaping who we become... are the first few, thus the immediate situation has great influence on the prospects of a child born into bad circumstances. There will always be human failures. Something that became fairly common many years ago was a trend where 13-16 year old girls were deciding that they should have a baby- because it would love them, so many actively sought to get pregnant- intentionally, for all the wrong reason at the wrong times, and with no consideration of the environment... except that someone would love them... which implies they don't understand they already are. Many reasons why people feel they must abort a pregnancy, Not being prepared to be or capable of being a decent parent is one of them.
I actually mostly agree with this and appreciate the reasoned measures response. My real issue with this is that unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be working. Meaning if you’re expecting people to realize their abortion choices were poor and perhaps even influence the next generation to think the same… isn’t working. Our abortion rates aren’t decreasing. As far as I know, they never have. They’ve only increased. The problem is getting worse. I believe it’s getting worse because we are normalizing the behavior. We are making it acceptable and as such more people are engaging in it. We are, in fact, incentivizing abortion by removing ANY and ALL consequence from the woman for doing it. What do y’all think is going to happen when you do that? It’s not going to get better, it’s going to get worse.
I've never seen such a shirt, never hears of such a shirt, or a story like that. And- a person wearing such a shirt is likely just like someone on this flyer trying to trigger an argument... by pushing the buttons of the radicals. Regardless, a policy of a society cannot be controlled by a shirt, nor an exception. Humans will always be flawed, and one of our biggest is thinking we have the right to interfere in the lives of each other over things that don't involve us at all.
Why are conservatives against abortion? The procedure and outcome for an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome if the pregnancy was due to consensual sex. In each, a fetus is killed. Why do they make an exception for rape?
