The Gov won't save our nation? The Gov is going to bail out FLorida

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are making a common modern day leftist argument. That argument is based on normalizing the term Democratic Socialism. Whether you understand the origin of your argument or not, is of no consequence.

    You have since stopped calling it Socialism and now are saying socialist policy. My work is done here.
     
  2. FreshAir

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    the who... is any greedy corporation outsourcing American jobs... that was my answer
     
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  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And who would have PRINTED that money??? Just give private companies their own "money printing" machine?

    Without tax money, we'd all be speaking Japanese or German or Russian....But YOU think YOU would have done "better" because, as we have seen, this is about YOU, right? Your first sentence provides the answer: let OTHERS pay the bill

    Yet another "keep your government hands off my Post Office" comment.

    You're on a roll!
     
  4. Overitall

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    Then you clearly didn't understand the question.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you clearly didn't understand the answer.

    the greedy corporation decides.... they choose to outsource American jobs or not... their choice
     
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    Socialist policies ARE socialism. That's what the video on the OP calls them. They are not a form of government, like you misinterpreted. They are the "socialism" that Republicans attack Democrats over. And your work was to change the subject to try to obscure this fact by talking about "forms of government". So it failed.
     
  7. Overitall

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    Obviously I didn't because it had no relationship to the question I asked.
     
  8. FreshAir

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    America uses the best of all systems, saying we should not use what works from any system doesn't make sense, use what works, toss the rest
     
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    What is the OP trying to prove here? The government isn't bailing out Florida. The government is using TAX dollars submitted by NON-GOVERNMENT citizens to bail out Florida.
    I would like to know how many politicians gave money out of their own pocket to help them.
     
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    So yes the govt is bailing out Florida.
     
  11. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The PEOPLE of AMERICA are bailing them out.
     
  12. FreshAir

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    actually it did
     
  13. Overitall

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    Wonderful! Enjoy the rest of your day.
     
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    I will.....you too
     
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    You're attacking me because you can't bring yourself to admit that the repairs after Ian will be installed by private entities. They will EVEN make a profit doing so.

    You pray at the alter of government, so this fact is inconvenient.
     
  16. Golem

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    And the difference is... what? The government IS your tax dollars. Amazing that you haven't realized that yet.
     
  17. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm aware of that. I was putting it into CONTEXT
    I learned that from YOU GUYS
     
  18. FreshAir

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    yep, Biden won't threaten not to help them cause they are a republican State and do not worship him like a God
     
  19. jcarlilesiu

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    For all intents and purposes, the USPS is a private company from a funding perspective.

    Construction workers whom worked for a for-profit private company. The rest is just talking points.

    Agreed. Unfortunately, the left continues to molest this notion in order to identify ways they can use government funding collected from some people to give to other people.

    Precisely the problem.

    Actually, socialism is an economic system in which the government controls the means of production.

    In fact, it has little if anything to do with government's collection of taxes or allocation. Thats usually under the auspices of Social Programming.

    Your TDS will be ignored.

    Social Programming which is based on the notion of government control of services...

    Government social programming removes the profit component, but increases costs by administrative red tape and inefficiencies negating any savings. Usually being more costly than the private for-profit counterpart.

    Name an industry that the US government operates that does it cheaper/better than their private counterpart?

    This all doesn't even consider the fact of the monopoly aspect of these programs. They are forced on people without choice of participation. But that's a whole other topic.

    More TDS
     
  20. jcarlilesiu

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    Yet the government gets to force their services on people, not have a profit, and still can't figure out how to be financially solvent.

    If any company ran as inefficiently, essentially burning dollars, as the federal government they would be bankrupt.
     
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    Wrong! They will be installed by low paid workers whom the SOCIALIST policies I listed educated, kept healthy and in varied ways protected!

    If you want to split hairs, you need to split them all the way through.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You realize that our country was able to provide those shared benefits you keep speaking up prior to 1913 and the federal income tax, right?
     
  23. Golem

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    By taking it OUT of context? If you learned that from us, clearly you didn't learn it very well.

    As I just told another poster: if you're going to split hairs, you need to split them all the way through. Don't stop at the point in which you find it convenient.
     
  24. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im not splitting anything, you're quite frankly just making **** up.

    Federeal contracts, using the money you speak of, are subject to the Davis Bacon Act and require all laborers and skilled trades to be paid prevailing wages.

    Established prevailing wages are not in the slightest "low pay".
     
  25. Darthcervantes

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    you lost me
    I may have misinterpreted your first comment I replied too
    If you just want to insult me instead of maybe clearing it up then we are done here
    if you want to conduct yourself as a civilized adult, I'll play ball
     
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