The Gov won't save our nation? The Gov is going to bail out FLorida

Yup, I'm fine with it! Don't give a rat's ass about it, I have my own nation and Americans to worry about! And that even includes you and yours good Sir!

 

So you're just going to ignore my post about prevailing wage, play dense related to the fact that the workers are employed by a private company, and just keep repeating your talking points.

Do you positions go any deeper than that?

 

It receives zero dollars from tax payers.

 

No, the conversation is and has been about the role of government verse the private sector to reconstruct after a natural disaster.

You'rea big supporter of government and incorrectly claim they are essential for the reconstruction. That isn't true, the fed performs virtually zero percent of the work.

While you advocate for the government and their part in our economic system, you slander private business and their relationship to employees.

Those anti-private anti-profit types fail to understand the inherent problems with government investment in the private sector including loss of efficiency, red tape, less value per dollar spent, and of course the threat of monopolistic characteristics by virtue.

You want to put government up on this pedestal and conveniently ignore the facts that prove my point.

 

Don't want to peel the layers back Golem, because you know your agenda blows.

Where do you think the federal government gets the money to reconstruct after a natural disaster? The money tree?

 

Ok. I'm about done playing your games.

You said: "Wrong! They will be installed by low paid workers"


So you get to make incorrect and ridiculous statements and when challenged you claim its not in topic?

I'm done. You're more concerned with "winning" than having a conversation with opposing points of few.

You won. Go get your cookie.

 

Well, I was hopeful for a discussion and debate, but I got to this line and realized my attempt is futile with somebody who feels the need to jab for something like a typo or formatting.

There is a reason half the liberal progressives come here and advocate for government everyday, because they are dependant on them. It's 100% self interest.

And that's really truly sad.

 

Sure. I support taxpayer funded military etc. You can call it socialism if you like, even though it doesn't fit the bill.

 

They mean that whatever comes before the suffix is the most important element in the corresponding context.

Especially that one! The "ism" raises to the level of religions like Christianism and Buddhism.

 

Totally the opposite. She wants profitable private industries to start profiting from Global Warming instead of shifting the consequence of their profits to regular folk. Part of the profit that Shell or Exxon have accumulated are now on the backs of the people of southwest Florida, after Ian.

 

Sure am! Can think of few things as irrelevant to this discussion as that. And I ALWAYS ignore (or try to... except when I can make fun of it) irrelevant nonsense.

 

No they aren't examples of a socialist economy or socialism. They are PUBLIC services. The government providing police protection is not an indicator of a socialist economy or society. The only things that come close on the list are Medicare and Social Security but those in fact are defined benefit packages we pay for and for which I would have gladly opted out of back when I was just starting to work.

 

Right! They obtain all their profits from Martian slaves who mine gold from asteroids in Andromeda.

 

Socialism means that the government collects taxes which are used primarily for social benefit. You know... like all the things I mentioned. Thus the term "socialism" from "social..." (as in society) "..ism" (as in, what is most important). Benefitting society as a whole is what is relevant. That's all socialism is. Simple!

Of course, there are many versions of "socialism". Like Marxist Socialism. Or Maoist Socialism. What they disagree on is HOW to benefit society. The list I gave I think we can ALL agree are positive socialist goals.

 

Hardly

The USPS is funded pretty much the same way FedX or UPS is funded Your example is ridiculously wrong! Since 1971 the USPS has operated as a private business, it receives ZERO DOLLARS from the government or taxpayer dollars!

Does the USPS receive tax payer dollars.

NO


Wow what little people know about their country is astounding

 

This is a straight up lie.

 

Do you really believe this? Donald Trump is one man that most people feel is kind of a dufus but has the courage to stand up and speak in mind in an era of massive lying and corruption. Whether you like his policies or not [or believe him or not], you have to admire his tenacity. Again, most people I've spoken to concerning DT don't approve of his behavior at times, but look at how close his family is. Compare him to other politicians. This suggests a lot. What would you folks do without somebody to hate?

Comparing DT to Christianity and Buddhism shows how bizarre this entire hate DT thing has gotten. These religions have been around for over two thousand years. How long do you believe people will be "worshiping" DT? It seems like you need to gain a little perspective here.

It's just politics...complete bs cloaked in ideology.

 

Sorry but healthcare should not be for-profit.

 

So doctors should provide their services for free? Just enough to cover the bills and never advance or have enough to improve living situations? Guess we should all provide their living accommodations and only give them what they need to survive? How about paying for their bills for lawsuits also? How much of their life do you want to control just because you think healthcare should not be "for-profit"? What person would live the life you want for them when they can just go and learn something else that will give them a better life than what you want for doctors?

 

So medicare and VA doctors don't get paid?

 

Then in the same breath, health care should not be free to people that expose themselves to health hazards like aids, monkey pox, smoking related diseases, reckless behaviors and the list goes on...

Although I think this example should match ridiculous..

 

You think they don't do what they do for profit? At 200k+?

 

According to you they aren't paid.

 

Where did I say that? Oh right....I didn't. Try keeping your strawman arguments to yourself, they don't work on me.

 

I posted the definition of socialism, but if you want to expand it to mean social serviced then so be it. I prefer calling things for what they are as opposed to redefining words.