The moon landing is fake.

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The truth is that any intelligent personm knows they are worthless videos.

    The evidence is crushing that the moon landings and chinese space walk were all real.

    Every claim from you to the contrary has been disproven and and debunked.

    you and everyone else knows this is true you simply lack the maturity to admit it.

    Case closed and history will always acknoweldge the truth of the landings and spacewalk while idiotic crack pots who deny fact get flushed.
     
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    This is good.

    A16 Audio Analysis Summary
     
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    They are not moving, there is a rod inside the flags to prop them up, for photo and media purposes.

    History

    1. The moon landing is fake because the American flag looks like it is flapping in the wind.
     
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    The site you linked to doesn't even address the anomaly of the flag moving when the astronaut walks by it. Here's a link to the evidence.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068

    This poster explained what what happening very well.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-apollo-15-flag.438617/page-3#post-1065728331

    Let's hear your analysis of the video I posted in post #377.
     
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    Once again, back to bump a dead thread and ignoring countless responses. And more on this utterly moronic "hot splash" crap! Aulis, the internet equivalent of sewage.

    Really? This provably incompetent "steve the chemist" comes up with another dumb claim. These heat shields have a major requirement that the components are highly efficient at heat dissipation! The Command Module was coated with ablative materials designed to do just that, take enormous heat and dissolve.

    Perhaps to explain this simple thing to a layman, go find a piece of aluminum and place it in an oven for 10 minutes. Take it out. It will be room temperature in a matter of a few seconds! The CM has 10's of thousands of feet falling at normal terminal velocity, plus 9,000ft falling with parachutes on a material specifically designed to dump its heat!

    Do something amazing, read and learn something!
    CSM25_Apollo_Manufacturing_pp245-252.pdf (nasa.gov)
    Ch4.1.7(10).fm (faa.gov)

    Buzz Aldrin Gyroscope Demonstration - YouTube

    Are you now suggesting that the Command Modules were not even in space? That is seriously dumb and disproven by numerous instances of extended weightlessness.

    ANSWER PLEASE!
    My
    referee is an actual expert in complex photography and analysis.
    Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Narrow Angle Camera Views of the Apollo Landing Sites (mem-tek.com)
    Isolate any part that he could be lying about.

    Why are you so afraid to answer this below? Are you chicken? In response to your mega spammed LROC crap:-


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-apollo-landing.519410/page-5#post-1068573248

    Yet again you spam identical crap and ignore where these have been already responded to and soundly thrashed! As a side note, you have admitted to already posting this crap before and as you always do, you avoid the responses.

    Video 1:-
    This is made by the incredibly misguided hunchbacked. He uses partial crops of the massive original files as his "evidence". These partial crops are of course taken using editing software and enhanced accordingly! He does no such analysis on the multi-gigabyte full TIF images that are not edited. Fail.

    Video 2:-
    An appalling conclusion erroneously obtained. He says the pictures of the Apollo hardware should be better, because Earth bound satellite telescopes can pick out smaller objects. What stunning ignorance. The Earth has nearly 3 times the albedo of the brightest parts of the Moon, has massive color variances and the telescopes are designed specifically for ultra close up detail. Compared to the low light emitting Moon, devoid of color or contrast and using a telescope that had multiple purposes.

    Video 3:-
    The no fly zone is a request for Apollo 11 and 17 only and completely irrelevant. The trails he says disappear, do not! Once again he uses small contrast boosted crops and fails to use the large original images.

    Your reliance on stupid youtube videos that you don't even understand, is quite pathetic.
     
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    Are you trying to avoid answering this post? Your stupid video is a collection of comms. noises that have been selectively manipulated. The only one that looks like a genuine vibration is where he bangs his hand against the rover.
     
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    What about the softer sound that are shown starting at the 1:37 time mark? At around the 1:57 time mark he throws a bag. It can be heard hitting the ground a few meters away from the astronaut. How can it be heard in a vacuum?
     
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    It has been addressed numerous times, it is nonsense since you fell for an optical illusion.

    Not going to watch your videos, since the explanation made many years ago was more than sufficient.
     
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    Address post #383. It's new and it hasn't been addressed. The video is in post #377.
     
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    You felt the need to spam this crap on other forums where you were given the factual explanation. You cannot be reached with anything that contradicts your horseshit videos. And now look, here you go for the thousandth time with this idiotic crap about the Apollo 15 flag!

    You can't explain why lens flares moved, you denied the flagpole moving, you ignored my video showing an item wafting fabric and it moved TOWARDS it! You were shown how air behaves in a wind tunnel, you ignored it. You will just deny, run away and repeat a few months later. Seriously pathetic. Isn't it amazing that anyone with education
    knows you are talking hogwash.

    Post #382 evaded for about the tenth time.
     
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    WTF? New? This crap was tabled over a decade ago and got ripped to shreds on the apollohoax.net forum. Just because you blunder on more horseshit doesn't mean it's new! That version of plagiarized nonsense is 4 years old.

    Live mics to enact a hoax is the behaviour of morons, no wonder you consider this. These microphones were set in the cap they wore and were only able to pick up close proximity sound waves. Anything and everything no matter how batshit sucks you in.
     
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    I've addressed all that on other threads. As I've said a few times before, you've destroyed your credibility several times by saying lame things.

    You tried to obfuscate the clear proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-chinese-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/


    You lamely tried to obfuscate this anomaly...

    The Apollo Moon Jump Salute Refute
    https://www.brighteon.com/612d782a-9223-4698-99ac-3eb337ceedf5

    ...with this thread.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072162665


    You tried to obfuscate this clear anomaly...

    Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings.

    (2:35 time mark)


    ...with this thread.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-apollo-15-flag.438617/page-2#post-1065710796

    When this guy clearly showed that you were wrong, you didn't modify your opinion.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-apollo-15-flag.438617/page-3#post-1065728331


    It's clear to everyone who takes the time to check all that out that you have no credibility. Jump up and down and scream all you want. This is simply too clear. There's really no sense in my wasting time talking to you.


    Please link to that and we can talk about whether they really ripped it to shreds. Why don't you address it right now?
     
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    Lying once again. Link to where you have addressed any of those points. You just avoid and deflect/

    From a position of total ignorance. The major problem with somebody like you assessing anyone's credibility is fundamentally flawed by your own appalling credibility fails and lack of honesty in debate. You are not qualified to judge anybody's credibility, especially when the criteria uses some of the most stupid conspiracy claims on the web.

    Only a very clueless moron would claim that spacewalk was faked. All they had to do was exit the hatch in a spacesuit.

    It isn't an anomaly it is an idiotic observation on your part.

    Hmmm another subject that leaves your brain scrambling for cells. My response:

    Careful now. Citing a principle that is NOT observed in the Apollo 15 flag is not smart. A drop in pressure causes a movement towards not away from the cause. That was what was observed in my example!

    So at 1.19 in this video, one sees quite how far air is pushed by a large wing - an example of Bernoulli's principle:-



    You are not even close to be able to speak for "all". Your opinion is that of a serial forum spammer of 2 decades who is still posting the same bullshit!

    Yes, go back and repeat it all on spurstalk, oh wait, you've had all your junk deleted haven't you. I had a little chuckle about that - all that spammed work, all those spammed links - gone forever. Boy that must really bug you.

    Surely you've had enough explanation already on the other forums you are spamming on? Communications noises mainly. The only really valid one involves his glove leaning on the rock, picking up the hammer vibration hitting it with his other hand. On Apollo 17 Cernan hits a rock a few times but there is no sound, his other arm is not touching it.

    Sound on the moon? (apollohoax.net)
    That thread links to the original footage and demonstrates that team hoaxnut has doctored the sounds. But of course that would be just too hard for the likes of you to believe!

    Direct Apollo Proof - Ignored by the serial forum spammer

    This page deals with forum posts itemising some notable proof of a Moon landing. Needless to say the spammer ignores, denies or offers a ludicrous response.
    Number 1: This shows a sequence where the reflection from the Sun is blocked out completely by a very narrow rod. This 100% refutes the stupid claim that it was some sort of massive light.

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    Number 2: Demonstrates 100% that as the light levels in the camera are altered by aperture, so does the size of the blooming on the visor.

    [​IMG]

    Number 3: This shows a clear parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots that is 100% irrefutably rising and falling at the same time as he is. PROVING that he must be on the Moon.

    [​IMG]

    Number 4: This is a clear indicator of simultaneous soil dropping at the same speed as the jumper. This is 100% proof he is on the Moon.

    [​IMG]

    Number 5:
    This animation is the supposed "duplicate" background claim from the SFS. It shows that the distant mountains are actually just viewed from a more rotated vantage point. He actually denied that they are different and from obviously different places.

    [​IMG]

    Number 6:
    Here we have one of my favorites. The cloth from the ceiling, moving TOWARDS the approaching object and not doing so until it is virtually level. Applied to Apollo 15 flag.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sound on the moon? (apollohoax.net)

    That's the same thing I said a few years ago. Why in the world would you have open microphones on a soundstage that is supposed to represent a VACUUM?

    Noises in the VOX microphones can be made by even slightly harder breaths, such as any extra exertion, like hammering - it all depends on the astronaut's mouth proximity to the mic, and it WOULD be closer when he leans forward in his suit to observe some of the tasks he was working on. Also, the mics at Houston control were open and could make similar sounds just by being adjusted, tapped with a pen, or exhaling close to the mic. As they were voice activated, and designed to filter out background noise, close proximity of the mouth was also required in order to be clear and audible, and often resulted in inadvertent brushing of the lips or chin up against the mic, causing all sorts of odd sounds. I know because I used those type of systems for years during nuclear refueling operations.


     
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    I found this one but I can't get it to open.
    https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.sta11.html#1670637

    This link used to go to the original footage of the Apollo 15 flag anomaly*.
    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v.1485317.rm

    That part of the footage disappeared. Then the link started going to a Yahoo site.

    I'd like to see if that original footage is still on the NASA site somewhere. Do you know where it is? I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone.


    *
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
     
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    Posters here have wasted their time and embarrassed themselves.

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    Just Scott who has been massively proven wrong
     
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    I don't know Scott... I just dropped in.

    A close relative was a 42 year career deep space scientist for NASA beginning with the first Apollo manned moon mission. His lab was in the Lunar Receiving Lab building at the Houston Spacecraft Center. He and other pioneer NASA scientists [one of whom later won a Nobel Prize in physics] analyzed the lunar samples. They created their NASA lab from scratch. My relative even learned how to blow glass to make special test tubes they needed. He was also an expert on meteorites, comets and asteroids [NASA named an asteroid after him.] He was also curator of NASA meteorites.

    I'm not here to debate... I just think it's sad to see the awesome historical achievements of so many wonderful talented dedicated pioneers trashed.

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    My small grandchildren could do this.

    They moved to a secure server a long time ago, several years! Shows how ridiculous your cut and paste spam is!

    Because that is a dead link, just like about a dozen others on your wall of spam.

    I know where it is - took me about 2 minutes to track it down.

    I don't think you are smart enough to find it.

    Sound on the moon? (apollohoax.net)

    That's the same thing I said a few years ago. Why in the world would you have open microphones on a soundstage that is supposed to represent a VACUUM?

    Noises in the VOX microphones can be made by even slightly harder breaths, such as any extra exertion, like hammering - it all depends on the astronaut's mouth proximity to the mic, and it WOULD be closer when he leans forward in his suit to observe some of the tasks he was working on. Also, the mics at Houston control were open and could make similar sounds just by being adjusted, tapped with a pen, or exhaling close to the mic. As they were voice activated, and designed to filter out background noise, close proximity of the mouth was also required in order to be clear and audible, and often resulted in inadvertent brushing of the lips or chin up against the mic, causing all sorts of odd sounds. I know because I used those type of systems for years during nuclear refueling operations.
     
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    That's not the link I was referring to. I was referring to the original footage of the Apollo15 flag anomaly.

    Apollo 15 flag waving
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

    Can you find that?



    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-moon-landing-is-fake.553296/page-16#post-1072816044

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-moon-landing-is-fake.553296/page-15#post-1072797829
    (40:13 time mark of the video)

    You're in denial. There are just too many sounds which exactly correspond to the actions that would make them. There are scenarios that would explain how they were picked up. We don't know what kind of microphones were really used and we don't know where they were really located. They space costumes there were using might have been made of light fabric which would let in sound. The people doing the talking might have actually been off camera watching the events.

    There's already a ton of other hoax proof* so this issue isn't about whether they faked the missions. It's about how they faked the missions so the idea that jokers added those sounds can be ruled out.

    Don't take sites such as these seriously. Jay Windley** destroyed his credibility here...
    https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1118.15
    (post #26)

    ...and here...
    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy/page2

    ...and Betamax destroyed his credibility by agreeing with him.


    *
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068


    **
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html
     
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    I know exactly what you meant, the clue was in the name of the link! You are too inept to find it.

    Yes, as I said, it took me 2 minutes. You, it will probably take a couple of weeks!

    No.

    There are thousands that do not and that puts you in total ignorance and denial.

    No there are not. It is insane for a team faking being in a vacuum to use live microphones. That is the kind of idiotic thing the hoax blusterers would do.

    So what moronic sense does it make to NOT use vox microphones for vox and close proximity microphones to avoid capturing other sounds! You are utterly clueless.

    Only a very dishonest person would look at those videos and conclude they are in flimsy costumes!. All irrelevant. It takes profound ignorance to consider using live microphones to pretend they are in a vacuum!

    Then why would they use ANY microphones!! Listen to yourself - this is tjust insanity!

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)

    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!
    "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."

    "This lame stand of your totally exposes you as a shill*"

    "It just makes you look like a horse's a-s and the viewers can see it. I don't see any point in my continuing to reiterate this."


    What a sad, sad liar this person is. They have been humiliated completely on dozens of subjects, thousands of times on Apollo, yet they spew this cut and paste hogwash almost every time.
    12. Credibility Referbacks: When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests".

    "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

    "....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"
     
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    I'll believe it exists when you post it. I'll try to find it but if it looks like it will take hours of searching, I'm not going to bother. If you have it, please post it.


    We're talking about the original NASA footage of this video (2:35 time mark).

    Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings.



    I suspect that NASA made it disappear when that anomaly was found.
     
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