The only Jewish 2020 Dem candidate, boosts Ihman Omar's comments about Israel

Luckily for Israel most people are ignorant of its terrorist past.

 

But let us remember this thread is about the lies told about Omar!

 

But they're certainly aware of Islamic terrorism and ignorance.

 

I don't need reminded. Its still true. Israel is the only strip of land (In the region) where it is safe to walk through town wearing a cross, yarmulke, gay flag, have an opinion of your own, be critical of government/religion, etc.

That is an easy position to defend. I didn't even have to post Pallywood blooper videos.

 

No I just showed how it is not!

 

No. you didn't. Whatever point you're trying to make has been lost in time while Muslims continue their terrorism and self pity today.

 

anti-Semites eh? Well check out these three who are on trial in Germany which means they may find their way to jail. These anti-Semites two of whom came from Israel and one from Gaza had the cheek to protest a visiting Israeli speaker until they were removed from the hall. Free speech at Universities are indeed a thing of the past as we move towards fascism.

https://972mag.com/germany-puts-pro-bds-activists-trial-disrupting-israeli-mk/140509/

Our countries seem determined to do anything necessary including destroying democracy and free political speech and thought in order to stop criticism of Israel.

 

The point is simple and factual. Israel is a state created by terrorists that now cries about terrorists. It is not lost in time, it is obscured by Zionist Historical Revisionism!

 

I forgot about this. A German Bank is doing a 'scientific review' of Jewish Voice for Peace to see if they are antisemetic and they must stop doing business with them. I think the issue when you are moving towards authoritarian regimes is that you do not notice it or try to pretend it is not happening but the West sure is charging there and this lack of freedom of speech, not just on Israel, I was watching a program where they were showing that the US would not even allow people to say the truth about Venezuela tonight. We are dashing towards oppression and authoritarian governments most of whom seem to be gearing up to use Muslims as the other. Just how bad that will get remains to be seen.

Of course most of that organisation is Jewish with in the US hundreds of Rabbi's but they do not have the same political views as extreme right Israel so …..antisemitism

https://972mag.com/german-bank-determine-whether-left-wing-jewish-group-anti-semitic/140118/

Looks like I made a mistake there this is not the same organisation as the American one..it is Jewish Voice for Peace in the Middle east and just has a few dozen members.....but The Simon Wiesenthal Center’s list of antisemitism includes not just individuals but also organisations like the UN in Gaza! and Jeremy Corbyn. If anyone cannot see how we are already living in repressive Governments they must have their eyes closed or of course be on the side of the repression so like it anyway.

 

It is possible based on context. Now youre getting it!

 

So for instance, if this was someone with a history of making racist statements and who had been sued for racial discrimination multiple times in the past?

 

Not according to the multitudes of Black, darkskinned Africans, who Netanyahu ordered to leave the country last year solely because they aren't White-looking humans.

 

Do you also balance the same probabilities when assessing trump's bigotry?

 

This is what they do...they stick together regardless of morals or beliefs. This is why democrats will probably rule...the future is lpoking pretty dark

 

I do indeed.

 

It is my opinion that someone who claims to have a religious fauth but does not allow their faith to actually impact their lives, is not a serious person of faith. And I think that most people would agree with me. Do you think that so called "Jew" but proclaimed atheist Bernie Sanders is a reasonable representative of Judaism? The media certainly do, who say, "you see, Bernie is okay with Omar's comments and he is a Jew." Do you think that the media is being reasonable when it says this?

 

What's your point?

 

No that is not true. It is true that up until around the end of the 19th C if someone gave up Judaism they were no longer considered a Jew. The term antisemitism was coined in 1879 by German Wilhelm Marr. Many people were giving up religion in Europe at this time and this was a way of keeping hatred against people who were born Jews going indefinitely by suggesting it was genetic. This of course was what the Nazi extermination of Jews was based on, genetics. Most Jews at the time did not believe this, believing Jews were people who belonged to the religion of Judaism. Zionists however along with Nazis did believe that Jews were a race and so needed their own country. Early Zionists were strongly secular and their intent was to set up a secular state. Most religious Jews did not approve of Zionism. Israel then has continued this concept that being a Jew is genetic and nothing to do with Judaism - though in Israel religion is now picking up in influence unfortunately of the extremist kind. I think it is anyone who has at least one Jewish Grandmother is considered a Jew. Many Jews complain that Israel forces them to remain Jews due to their genetics when otherwise they would long have ceased to be. Due to Israeli's belief that being a Jew is a genetic issue rather than a religious one that is how Jews are now seen. I will tell you I knew nothing about this till I started posting on line. Like yourself I thought Jews were people who practiced the religion Judaism. If it were not for Israel we almost certainly would have returned to Jews being people who practiced the religion Judaism after WW2

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Force them how? If they don't want to consider themselves as Jews, then they simply can stop considering themselves as Jews.

Are you saying that Jewish religious leaders in Israel who practice the religion to perfection,
would consider themselves on the same level as anyone with Jewish heritage but who don't practice the religion one little bit?​

 

Israel has the voice on Jews. She claims that is who they are. We already have experience of what has happened to people other people thought were Jews. The Germans exterminated on genetics not religion. I have read Jews say they have to continue to fight what Israel is doing because she claims they are Jews. As she does claim they are Jews she leaves them vulnerable to any antisemitism which rises.

Israel's belief on who is a Jew is based primarily on genetics not religion and that is accepted by the world. I was just trying to help you with information you appeared not to have. You are incorrect that Sanders is not a Jew as a Jew is recognised at present in the world. I am not interested in further discussion.

 

Yes, but who are we? To require and to dictate, the magnitude, at which Bernie should display his Judaism? Is that even, logical??? Since, no, not one of us knows what Bernie does in his personal life away from the public eyes.

Millions of people think Bernie's repping of Judaism is, flawless, and they view Tim Wise in the same way.

Yes, the media is being very reasonable. And that's because Bernie was very, reasonable, when he did not feel that Omar's comments were anti-Semitic.

It's sort of like the respectful question I ask which no Jew hath ever, ever dared answer, and therefore I suspect you will do the same as those Jews; when does telling the truth, not get deemed as anti-Semitic?

 

The scripture, the words, the verbiage which you read in that biblical text.

 

Democrats, especially progressives, protect their own. They can be racist, wear blackface, be antisemitic, etc., with no repercussions.

 

Well then if you agree that it is only, possible, does it mean you agree that it is not for certain? And if you are being that, fair, then you have to apply that to Omar by respecting her comments as criticizing Israel ---therefore she's not being anti-Semitic toward Jews. Which is why Jews like Bernie, applauded her comments.

 

Since Bernie is Jewish and he is not racist, plus he doesn't dress in Blackface...then I'm confused about your comments and who you refer to.