The only Jewish 2020 Dem candidate, boosts Ihman Omar's comments about Israel

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're not an authority on racism because you are of a certain race. That notion is itself racist.
     
  2. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    Oh well, then you might really hate me, for showing that your claim here is not true at all. See, look:


    In Israel Too, Young Black Men Face Police Racism and Brutality

    Israel's police force's record of brutality and over-policing against Israelis of Ethiopian descent mean, just like their peers in the U.S., young black Israelis are growing up in an atmosphere of fear and intimidation.

    by Don Futterman

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pr...en-face-police-racism-and-brutality-1.5415346

    and

    https://m.jpost.com/Magazine/Black-Lives-Matter-vs-Israel-468994

    :)
     
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  3. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    Humans don't have to be an authority on, Race, in order to speak facts and truths about Race or Racism. No matter what the Race of the speaker is!

    Therefore it is likely, racist, to even interject that in a discussion like this where it has no place. Most notably, since you yourself agreed with the concept that someone can criticize Israel and not be anti-Semitic.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what relevance does Sanders Judaism have? None at all.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    It has very high, relevance, since he is Jewish and therefore he can be offended by 'real' anti-Semitic comments.
     
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    His opinion is no more valid than that of a Polynesian or a West Indian.
     
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    Being a Jewish does not mean that person is claiming to have a religious faith. What a nonsensical fallacy. Non Sequitur to be exact ( it does not follow)

    It does not follow that because someone is Jewish that person has a religious faith.
     
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    Thats a tall claim for someone who claims to value honesty. Your dishonest claim calls for the operation of the mind and is misleading. The savagery in the surrounding region is why these refugees fled to Israel in the first place, and I thank you for bringing it up as it does support my position. It would be unreasonable to expect a permanent home and the time has come for them to leave. They were accepted and enjoyed years of safety and will be given money to help them get a new start. What kind of offers are they getting from the rest of the region?
     
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    I don't hate anyone. These black people are still safer there than the surrounding region. Probably safer than living in Los Angeles! Certainly we should oppose the abuse of power by law enforcement. Israel is not without issues, but the surrounding region has a long way to go to catch up with Israel. Would you like to discuss abuse of power by law enforcement in the ME?
     
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    Too many Muslims live in the past and bring their hatreds into the present. Do you feel the western democracies should murder Muslims because of 9/11 and other Islamic acts of terror?

    Islamic ignorance must stop, Muslims must adjust to the modern world or only greater troubles lie ahead. Muslims may think they're doing well in short term terrorist victories, or pleas of "islamophobia", but that won't do over the longer term. There is just no way ancient hatreds can envelope the modern world, just as the native Americans were no match for the arriving Europeans. Modernity always wins.
     
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    This simply is not based in, logic, when considering the millions of Americans who cast their vote for him to the Dem nominee.
     
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    Actually, I'd like to discuss how those darkskin Black Africans are, proof, that you are incorrect about how Israel is the only strip of land (In the region) where it is safe to walk through town wearing a cross, yarmulke, gay flag, have an opinion of your own, be critical of government/religion.
     
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    His opinion is significant, dont get me wrong, in the same way that Justin Bieber's opinion is significant. That doesnt give it any intellectual authority, only popular authority.
     
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    The Jewish faith is inherently connected to Jewish identity. ATHEIST Bernie Sanders cannot be taken seriously as a Jew, regardless of his heritage.
     
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    How do you know they're antisemitic if their racism is concealed? And since when have actual antisemitic types been shy about expressing their bigotry for Jews?
     
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    So, Jewishness is a religion, not an ethnicity?
     
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    In other words, you have no proof that Omar is actually antisemitic.
     
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    I have since changed my view on this. Im giving Omar a pass.
     
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    I have decided to give her the benefit of the doubt. Point conceded. Thanks for your enlightening posts.
     
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    I'm not sure why she would need a pass for saying something truthful.
     
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    Thanks for being a gentleman about it.
     
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    Well the word "Jewishness" is neither.
     
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    And why do you think it is relevant?
     
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    By being an atheist? :roflol: Sadly, I can believe that there are "millions of people" who are dumb enough to think this!

    What does Omar saying, "it's all about the benjamins" and "Israel is hypnotising the world" have to do with "telling the truth?"
     
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    So funny, so the founders of modern jewish zionism were not jews, hilarious! Antisemitism is strong in this one!
     

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