Exactly the same thing they were saying about psilocybin mushrooms and marijuana as a medicine about 20 years ago
Course one should not consume mushrooms unless they are certain what it is they are consuming. It is said that there are old mycologist and there are both mycologist but there are no old and bold mycologist. I had a friend that had relatives come down from Indiana once and they camped on the river and they all really wanted to try psilocybin mushrooms.... Specifically local pscilocybe cubensis. So they emerge from the Riverside cow pastures sometime later and ask me to identify what they had found. They had about 20 different species. I told them I don't know what any of those are but I do know that not a single one of those is a pscilocybe..... Do not eat any of them. I told them the ones they are looking for will grow directly on cow dung and stain blue immediately on cutting or bruising the flesh. A few days later they both get very sick from eating the large green gilled common lawn mushroom. Fortunately for them this mushroom did not cause permanent liver or kidney damage but for two or three days it just made you wish you were dead. When it comes to mushrooms you better know what the hell you're eating
It is correct nobody claimed crystals could do harm. That’s why your reference to them here is pure fallacy. You have set up a strawman argument in which I have ZERO interest. Defune “qualified doctor”. A question IS NOT A COMPARISON. The only irrationality displayed is you guys worrying about a harmless crystal in a place where every “qualified professional” has a 10% chance of KILLING you with a direct action. Why must I cite something? You don’t support ANY of your opinions here. LOL But of course I can, because I’m not just spouting off opinions—I actually know what I’m talking about. https://pamw.pl/en/node/2503/pdf Please quote where I’ve said something shouldn’t ever be prescribed….Go! Of course. Addressed above. Would you like to support any of your opinions with evidence now?
Yes, laughter/humor are far better “healers” than crystals and dilute solutions of which knows what. Very low rates of negative side effects as well. But big pharma executives aren’t going to give up their jobs to become standup comics.
I'm off Highlands hammock state Park today. Hoping to see a venomous snake or two and check out some plants. 5500 acres of what Florida once looked like. Got my recumbent bicycle in the van, was going to take my dirt bike but no ATV riding
When we ask doctors about placebo use, about half report using them. And over 90% say they believe placebo has benefit. None reported they only use placebo in only non terminal patients. Docs that don’t use placebo probably should consider doing so. Placebo effect is documented to be helpful in terminal conditions like cancer, whether one survives or not. It’s great more states are allowing euthanasia. My body, my choice. Unless of course it’s some dilute solution indistinguishable from water. Then the FDA needs to prohibit that…
LOL. I love when you get all twisted about subjects you know NOTHING about. Please read up a bit on the subject, then think all this stuff through after you are informed a bit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnla...ying-75-of-the-fdas-drug-division-budget/amp/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/...nding alone,the agency's drug division budget. Please, please educate yourself. If you won’t, I’ll help you out more later. Don’t have time till later.
In that context - no problem. If someone were to think that crystals help, they would delay getting a diagnosis. That can be anywhere from no problem to very serious problem. A licensed physician, hopefully with training related to the symptoms. You're making assumptions concerning where and how lethal mistakes are made. Plus, you are ignoring that there are those who need serious help, and crystals are a way of delaying that help, making resolution anywhere from more difficult to impossible. I read that up to the point of the accusation of doctors applying "fake fixes". You absolutely can find cranks who write stuff like that. Link: NIH on Homeopathy
Placebo gets used in clinical trials in order to identify what are the results of a treatment. So, it's no real wonder that there are many doctors who have used placebo. The issue here is whether the prescriber of a placebo has the medical knowledge to make such a decision. If the placebo is for an otherwise curable disease, there are serious issues to consider. So, this is tied to the fact that homeopathy applied by those who aren't doctors is a serious issue.
Yes, I hate that. Congress should not be funding the FDA in that manner. But, you were implying a payoff situation and that is not what is happening. For your complaint, you need to show a quid pro quo.
I didn't mean to kick off this debate just by saying that I chose as an adult to eat a couple of berries that may be toxic. The bottom line is if you're a grown person you should make your own damn choices. I feel like information should be provided to people but they should also know the full extent of that information and make an informed decision according to their own free will
We should focus on the things that are documented to be killing people. Yet the only example we have is an anecdote about a crystal being used AFTER medical professionals had been consulted and all treatments attempted already. Your position is purely hypothetical. My posts are based on verifiable statistics and actual studies. You are welcome to your opinions, but so far they are completely unsubstantiated. So licensing is all that matters. Killing 250,000 folks a year in the US matters not. Just so long as they are licensed. And if they are unlicensed and can’t be documented to have killed 250,000 annually they should be….what? Nope. Not assuming anything. Just pointing out researchers at John Hopkins report medical professionals are killing 250,000 or more annually when approached for help. The dead 250,000 certainly found a resolution to their problem. You are right, dying at the hands of a “licensed” entity beats drinking a dilute solution or rubbing a crystal and living to tell the tale. “Resolution” indeed! It’s not an accusation, it’s a fact. And it’s not doctors, but so you DIDN’T read it at all. It’s fake fixes by public health that have FAILED to resolve the problem that keeps getting worse. You should really try reading up on the subject. I can see why you have so little background knowledge of the subject now. You won’t read anything that conflicts with your preconceived biases. That’s of course your right, but you can’t be taken seriously on matters of science when you take that approach to valid information you don’t like. If you disagree with the author whose work I cited is published in peer reviewed journals, you must now provide evidence the actions taken by PUBLIC HEALTH entities, not DOCTORS, has solved the problem. Good luck, as the data shows deaths from medical professionals and pharmaceuticals are increasing—drastically. Yes, I’m aware. I posted that link to Bowerbird last night to correct her errors. But there is no data in there to support your claims. I want you to supply EVIDENCE, not just opinions.
I’m not referring to research. I’m referring to clinical practice of medicine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...recent,is ethical under certain circumstances. You are always welcome to provide some statistics or a study to support your position homeopathy is a “serious issue”.
It isn’t Congress funding. It’s the companies profiting from faster and more likely approval that are doing the funding. It was implemented TO SPEED UP THE APPROVAL PROCESS. The quid pro quo is built in. It’s the whole point! Please read a little. Even if it doesn’t agree with your preconceived biases. You will never understand the subject if you do not read a little.
I'm just going to leave this thought here..... Remember that modern medicine and science gave us fentanyl... Raw opium was of course considered homeopathic and it worked.... But then modern medicine had to take that and turn it into fentanyl. Raw opium is one of the few illegal drugs that I have never done and I would like to try some. And they can take that fentanyl and shove it where the sun doesn't shine
If you are pushing the idea of ignoring the NIH and instead trying homeopathy, then you are actively blocking the best advice that exists on a topic that has serious impact on health.
There is absolutely NO record of homeopathy offering a solution for the deaths you point to. First of all, there is no formal basis for diagnosis of ANYTHING. There is no tracking of diagnosis, prescriptions and outcomes. There are no homeopathic "prescriptions" that have been approved by the FDA. Homeopathy runs blind. With allopathic medicine, there are major standards and methods of diagnosis. There is equipment not available to homeopathy (due to lack of training as well as funding). And, there are complete records of patient symptoms, treatments and outcomes. Thus, epidemiologists and others can work on improving these factors. Homeopathy has no inpatient facilities, thus not having any of the serious issues that come with having patients that have conditions so serious that they can not leave. (Of course, anyone can leave against doctor's orders.)
Many (most) clinical trials occur at hospitals. There isn't some separate facility for working out more advanced methods of resolving disease. When you ask a doctor whether they ever used placebo, you are essentially asking whether they ever took part in administering research. Also, doctors at hospitals are one serious source of research.
What is your point? Are you shocked that opium could be improved upon? Are you suggesting that fentanyl should be denied in a hospital setting where patients have very serious pain? Are you suggesting that opium never got abused and has no serious social and medical side effects? Are you hoping for better control of drugs produced specifically for sale and abuse on our streets? I know I am.
Please quote where I’ve said or claimed homeopathy is the solution for ANYTHING. I’ll wait. I’m uninterested in strawman or other fallacy. You are wasting your time.
Please read what I’ve posted. Placebos are not given in trials to calm patients or as a supplemental treatment. SMH. AGAIN from the source since reading is NOT your strong suit… Dude. This is unbelievable. Do some reading. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Use of placeboes is irrelevant to this topic. It is a fact that actual fully certified doctors use some elements of homeopathy when they are called for. But, that's not the issue. The problem has to do with the FACT that homeopathy can not tell the difference between a headache and a brain tumor. And, the more time spent without actual diagnosis, the worse off a patient becomes if there is a serious underlying condition.
Incorrect…..again. Homeopathy exhibits placebo effects. It is essentially just a placebo as most “treatments” are so diluted labs often cannot isolate the “active ingredient”. Homeopathy has only ONE “mode of action” and that IS the placebo effect. If homeopathy could demonstrate a positive effect greater than other placebos it could claim treatment efficacy. The fact is, it’s equal to many other placebos, but not more effective. Homeopathy is just a placebo. Period. And that is VERY relevant.
Great!! All agreed. But, they can't really present their treatments as placebo. Plus, one has to admit that there are procedures such as massage therapy that basically originated with social "medicine" and are being recognized by allopathic healthcare as being important. Medical science searches everywhere for substances that could be useful. NIH and others advise that when seeing a doctor, one should bring what homeopathy has been used. Sometimes there are active ingredients doctors need to know about.
Studies show disclosed placebos are still effective. Not sure why that wouldn’t apply to homeopathy as well. We have to keep an open mind while paying attention to evidence. If Covid taught me one thing in particular it is that we don’t know a fraction of what we think we know in the context of human health and disease. We must follow evidence but we can’t stay in a self created paradigm either where we believe only one group has all the answers or is always correct and honest. Years ago I had to eat crow when a veterinarian blew up my preconceived biases about acupuncture. (I believed the only benefit was placebo). He didn’t have to say a word. He just let me watch as he practiced his craft and simply grinned when I figured it out. Yes, all kinds of things have benefit. None more than preventative measures. Unfortunately there isn’t much money to be made in preventing disease. Treating is much more lucrative. If only the NIH was as worried about 250,000 deaths as they are homeopathy….
