Treasury denies Democrats' request for Trump tax returns

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  1. doombug

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    It is finally time to stop humoring these idiots in congress....
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    Strawman. I never said it was a good thing. However, he is in his rights to not release them.

    my god is the left gonna violate the rights of people just so that they can make a political point?
     
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    Short answer? Yes. Lefties gonna lefty.
     
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    Trump doesn’t have to turn over anything, the IRS does. Congress can request them for any federally elected politician. Same rules apply.
    You just want trump to not have to follow any rules.
     
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    He’s not being asked to release them. The IRS is being asked to follow the law.
     
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    Yes what sort of commies gave congress oversight? Why do they think they are an equal branch of govt?
     
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    This is true. The IRS is being asked to provide them in a clear situation of abuse of authority by a member(s) of Congress. There is very little doubt that Neal wants them because Trump refused to release them himself and that they want to look for dirt. They have no cause to request them and are disguising the request as an oversight into an IRS policy. I am just amazed that some people believe this is a valid request or that the precedent should be set that allows members of Congress to use their position to search for dirt on a political rival.
     
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    Does the law say congress has the power to request returns?
    Does congress have oversight over the IRS?
    Has congress found problems with the taxes of a US president that the irs didn’t?
     
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    Does the 4th Amendment of the Constitution protect citizens against illegal searches without probably cause? refusing to release them when there is no law requiring them to be released is not probable cause.

    While it is certainly true that Congress does have the authority to request them and they also have oversight to the IRS, that does not give them authority to request them for political reasons.....and there is very little doubt that this is political. If this goes to the SCOTUS, Neal is going to have to prove reasoning as to why oversight into this IRS policy is crucial. With the media attention over Trump's refusal to release them, he is going to need a very good reason. In this end, this tactic WILL come back and bite the Democrats in the butt.
     
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    The law is clear, by legislative purpose we mean an actual defined law or act or stature that would require the tax information. The House doesn't require Trump's taxes for an impeachment. If the cowards wanna do it, they can do it. But they're not going to pull the trigger, because they know that will give the House back to Republicans.
     
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    They have oversight over the irs who have been lax in their audit of presidential returns in the past. They have this authority.
     
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    Trumps kicking and screaming won’t change the law. The house will get his returns and they’ll probably quickly figure out why he was so intent on hiding them and ignoring the law.
     
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    If that were actually true, Lois Lerner would be rotting in jail. :roflol:
     
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    Congress can’t put people in jail. That’s trumps incompetent DOJ who decides not to charge her lol
     
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    They had the authority in 1927-1929. They don't have that authority now. The authority they do have, is limited in scope to a legislative purpose. And at that, they have to show they have cause for this purpose.

    That's why the Trump team delivered the first blow and challenged in court. They're not afraid whatsoever of the legal fight. Democrats should be, that's less money for campaigning.
     
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    Yes
     
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    You should hold your breath while you wait
     
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    Lol you think the dnc pays for this? We do! Trumps refusal to follow the law is paid for by US!
     
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    You meant Obama's. I fixed it for you.
     
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    Again, this is true. However, Congress is also subject to Abuse of Power laws.

    This is an actual LAW that supersedes "policy".

    I am not denying that Congress has the authority. I am questioning the motives...and so will SCOTUS. Congress members still need to have clear motives for their actions and it must be for Legislative purposes.
     
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    What law?
     
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    the American people have the right to know about there President, if Trump wanted to remain a private person he shoudl not of become President

    Trump can always resign and go back to his private life anytime he wants just like Nixon did
     
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    Then the American people should write their Congressmen and request a law. The American people do not have any rights to request something that is not required by law.
     
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    BS. No one has the right to know about someone's tax records. Where is such a right written so we can all see it?
     
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    Which right is that?
     

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