Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

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  1. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no problem with girls choosing to compete with boys. I do have a problem with steroids being prohibited for some athletes and not others. It doesn't matter why they are being taken, either they afford an unfair advantage or they do not.

    I feel the same way about someone who relies on a cane swinging one in a boxing ring. There is a difference between reasonably accommodating a disability and using that disability as an excuse to cheat.



     
  2. shades

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    sure, and then boys win everything.. do you even think before you say things?
     
  3. HTownMarine

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    Equality, doe...

    Who cares who wins as long as everyone has an equal chance, right?
     
  4. cd8ed

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    He doesn't want to be competing with women. The school / state forced him to do so.

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    As long as testosterone was taken at appropriate dosages, when competing with men, no cheating would be occouring.
     
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    I agree, slavery was a travesty, the entire world would have been better off without out it. They would have remained where they belonged and we would not have to be paying for their riots, lootings, and poverty.

    The school forced this kid to face off against girls, he wanted to compete with girls, and you are still whining about it. Either accept trans people willl be forced to participate with their birth gender or with your transitioning gender - you don't get it both ways.

    I have a strong feeling the courts are, yet again, going to not side with you.

    Anyone undergoing transitioning absolutely requires drugs. That's common knowledge, I'm sorry you lack it. And I know precisely what a bigot is, I speaking to one.
     
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    So she's crazy?
     
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    So the left are supposedly for women's rights and yet defend it when a transgender beefs up on testosterone and beats up all the women. How misogynistic is that? All because you are afraid to offend a transgender?


    And reading through this thread, so many of you have no clue about the muscle capabilities between male and female and what steroids do. I realize the left wants to pretend the only difference between male and female is one or two body parts, but science proves otherwise. We are entirely different, made up of different chemistry inside and out. Women are no more capable of building muscle like a man than a man is to become pregnant and give birth.
     
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    This is a joke right? Even with equal weight there is a serious disparity in upper body strength, etc. between males and females. Some differences are hormone based but other athletic differences affecting joint strength, bone proportion, etc. are not hormone based.
     
  9. guavaball

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    No one asked your opinion of slavery. This was about your insulting equation of homosexuality plight to hundreds of years of a people being bought and sold in the US.

    Not a he. Stop making up reality.

    I can accept she can call herself anything she wants. I will not accept giving her drugs to give her an unfair advantage over others which you keep running from.

    Judge shopping again. What a shocker.

    This is another lie you cannot prove. I have consistently asked for the scientific definition that states transgender requires medical drugs and you run each and every time because you know you made that up because your argument was a failure.

    Let's look at the definitions:

    trans·gen·der
    transˈjendər,tranzˈjendər/
    adjective
    denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.


    No mention of a drug requirement

    Even Web MD laughs at your ridiculous phony requirement

    When a child is born, a doctor says, "It’s a boy" or "It’s a girl."

    Assigning someone's sex is based on biology -- chromosomes, anatomy, and hormones. But a person's gender -- the inner sense of being male, female, or both -- doesn't always match that sex. Transgender people say they were assigned a sex that isn’t true to who they are.

    Many people have assumptions about what it means to be transgender, but it isn't about surgery, or sexual orientation, or even how someone dresses. It’s how they feel inside.


    Once again you have been owned making up a definition because your argument failed when it comes to her competing against other girls.

    I see you also ran away once again from the reality that the school requires a student to participate based on the sex on their birth certificate only. How many worthless posts of yours would have been saved if you had done the slightest bit of research on this case?

    Absolutely you are. As I am speaking to one as well. The difference is I'm smart enough to know we both are.
     
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    The let's see her face off against real boys. I doubt she'll be in the finals. I doubt she'd get by the first round.
     
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    I understand, the state has rules. I don't blame the kid at all. I blame UIL for either not letting him compete with boys or not forcing him to not use testosterone while competing.

    The girls he beat have a shot at wrestling in college or even the Olympics. His career is over because he chose to take testosterone because medically necessary drugs that confer advantages are not tolerated at higher levels.
     
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    You conveniently leave out the part where He wants to compete on the boys team but was not allowed to do so. There was a bill passed forcing teens to compete on sports teams based on the gender listed on their birth certificates.

    So rather than not competing he chose to continue to compete on the team he was forced to compete on.

    Now people are up in arms and blaming him, rather than backward policies that forced him to compete on a girls team.
     
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    Sports are a privilege not a right. I compete in the USAPL for powerlifting which is the drug tested federation. Guess what they say if you have medical condition that forces you to take steroids?

    Tough (*)(*)(*)(*)!
     
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    So if a student athlete has hypoganadiam under NCAA rules the atlete would only be allowed enough testosterone to equal serum levels of their competitors anything beyond that and you are disqualified for doping. In this case that would be the testosterone levels of a girl. What makes gemder dismorphia exempt from the rules that other medical conditions have to follow.
     
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    It is kind of silly, that anyone could defend allowing this. What part of PEDs do the "transgender" crowd not understand? Oh well. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Since lefties are snowflakes, then LBGTs are Almond Joys. :grin:
     
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    so you want male dominated sports and very few if any females able to participate in scholastic and professional sports face it because of the physical differences males in general are stronger and faster there for better at most sports then females so by allowing boys that claim they are transgender to play on the female teams your pushing real females off that team because they cant fairly compete for a spot on the team against the stronger and faster males
     
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    I'm completely understanding the issues facing transgender people, but they should not be able to compete in sports, particularly one having male genes competing against females. Or a female taking testosterone. THere is just a disadvantage.
     
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    :roflol: I wonder if the person you quoted has even heard of Title IX? We have so many non-Americans posting here the question needs asking.
     
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    And? Like I said sports are a privilege not a right. I compete in a powerlifting federation that does not allow medical exemptions for testosterone period.

    Under NCAA rules she should be disqualified because womens competitors are not allowed to have hormone levels above the allowable range medical exemption or not. Why is gemder dismorphia exempt from the same rules other that other medical conditions follow?
     
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    So the needs of one girl takes precedent over the needs of all the other girls?
     
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    Putting gender politics aside:

    One competitor being allowed to artificially inflate their testosterone level is a fundamentally unfair advantage over the other competitors. It is something which is forbidden at all levels of sport, professional and amateur, even to treat medical situations.

    If an athlete has a medical condition where a legit doctor prescribes a steroid or artificial boost in testosterone levels or HGH or something like that, they will be disqualified from any sport they compete in if they take it (and get caught).

    This individual should not have been allowed to violate the rules against taking performance enhancing drugs simply because she wants to be a boy. She should have simply been told: "If your medical condition requires steroid use, you may not compete in this league". That is no more unfair to her than it was unfair to me that I got cut from my junior high basketball team for being too short.
     
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    The NCAA has suspended athletes for much much less. Doctor prescribed steroids to accelerate the healing of an injury is not even allowed if the athlete wants to participate until the substances are out of the system. Crap, the QB of my favorite college team got a year's suspension for taking supplements to heal he purchased at GNC. I don't want to hear anymore whining that confused genders need special treatment.
     
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    This is the kind of stuff that you get when trying to run on imagination.

    If the other Girls don't get to take performance enhancers as well, then this is discriminatory policy. Either they get to take them to level the field, or the pretend boy should be dumped.
     
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    Not a he. Please educate yourself.

    No! You dont say! I haven't talked about that multiple times in this thread at all. lol

    She not he. End the war on pronouns.

    She can compete with the girls without using a performance enhancing drug. Why is that so hard to understand?

    Why can't you acknowledge that basic fact?
     
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    Even if you win the special Olympics, you're still retarded. Just sayin.
     

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