Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

So she should simply stop being transgender, correct?

What about people with naturally innate developed muscle and skeletal structure, that's an unfair advantage wouldn't you agree? If such a person existed should they have separate teams?

I think she should have been on the men's team - further than that I believe in gender desegregation.

 

At least I will give theories merit, you are clinging to principals not based in scientific principal because it's "always the way it has been".

I said nothing of the sort. It's unnecessary to lie

Ive read it each time, you are avoiding the base of the question. (I know why) Seeing that the procedure is medically prudent, your answer is not valid.

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3% of the population do not wield that type of power. 52% however do.

 

Im actually very talented. I played football all the way through college but had to realize that next level was not going to happen because I didnt have the body of an NFL tackle.

I should have claimed that I was really a 6'6" man trapped in a 6'1" body and then taken HGH at a young age to spur my growth.

 

Because Merryl Streep has feelingz about it. That's how the world works now. Rich, insulated peoples' feelingz dictate everything. This week, the feelingz of the privileged wankers is that sex-related identity stuff is awesome, so shut up. Next week, it might be the protection of the artist's special and fragile emotional equilibrium - and we will no longer be allowed to critique the performing and filmed arts. So shut up.

 

Wrong again. Please pretend to be honest about this. Where does it say you must take drugs to be transgender? Its not in any medical definition.

 

Why would I give an unproven theory merit any more than a theory that aliens have visited this world? And why should I base law off that unproven theory? Answer the question.

I didn't expect you to be honest about your position. But if you are going to pretend a child's personality should not be questioned but accepted being violent or angry is a personality trait should be accepted as well. The fact you can't answer that reality says it all.

Its obvious you haven't.

Don't fabricate a false narrative and claim I'm avoiding the question when I answer it each and every time. Just because you don't like the answer does not mean its not being answered.

If that were true gay marriage would never have needed to be decided by SCOTUS and not an amendment. You went judge shopping as you always do when you lose with the public. Prop 8 is the best evidence of that.

I see you ran away from my real world examples of LGBT pressure of hate ruining lives and businesses. This is my shocked face.

 

So this really isn't about wrestling. You just object to who she is or wants to be. And there is no place in society for her.

...and it is your place to say so. People like you should be able to tell people like her how to live.


Who gets to tell you how to live? Can I?

 

Wrong again. I dont care what she wants to call herself. I object to her taking a drug that gives her an unfair advantage of other girls.

Exactly why is that so hard to understand?

 

Drugs are a recognized treatment of GID. So she should stop medical treatment? You should be a politician, you say a lot but have no substance behind it.

So it isn't about an unfair advantage, it's about an unnatural (although medically necessary advantage). If she is taking a substance that makes her similar to males why not let her play with them?

Ive already said I disagree with sex segregation, weight classes make more sense. I'm not arguing for cross dressers to be able to switch genders as they see fit, this is a medical procedure she is undergoing.

 

Well one is based on medical evidence as per the links I posted. You can believe whatever you want, this is a kinda sorta free country for the most part. It's just kinda strange that you believe a child should stop a medical treatment to fit in your little bubble of correctness.

You people are so intellectually dishonest, it's disgusting. You have it down to an art.

Yet another lie.

Which equals yes, she should stop undergoing medical treatment because you disagree with it.

Like with desegregation, right? Even conservative judges sided with ssm. There was no legal reason to deny it, only religious ones.

That you feel 3% of the population, most likely closer to 1% as most gays don't gaf, can do anything without public support... interesting to say the least...

If mental gymnastics ever come to the olympics you're a shoe in.

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Exactly, she should forgo medical treatment to be able to play a sport. Right?

 

So next olympics we can watch the females getting testosterone injections trounce all the females who don't?

 

Again since you ducked the question, why would I give a theory any credit? Your claim its based on science ignores the obvious fact that it cannot be proven using that science.

That's what I would say if I lacked the moral fiber to answer a direct question about my own argument. No surprise of course.

Prove it. Go ahead.

Still lying about this I see. Show me any definition of transgender where medical intervention is required. No more BS, produce the definition backed by scientists.

You will run from this like every other hard question about your laughable theories because you don't have the courage to face it.

Of course there was legal reason. The people spoke through not one but two propositions shooting it down.

And race is genetic. Homosexuality is not. And the fact you would equate a proven genetic trait with hundreds of years of slavery shows how morally deficient you are on the subject.

I have the examples to prove it which you cannot refute. Its obvious because you've run from them each and every time they've been presented.

Still waiting for that scientific definition that being transgender requires medical intervention./

You just love making up definitions for words when you get caught. Too bad you can't back them up with actual facts.

 

So as I said you cannot produce a definition that fits your BS theory that medical involvement is a requirement to be transgender. Thanks for admitting that flagrant error.

And if its so important to her she can wait until after high school before doing so. I found it amusing you tried in vain to claim the only way she could be transgender is with drugs when nothing in reality supports you.

Because she is not a boy. She's a girl. Its amazing how the most simple truths have to be explained to you.

You are once again showing your pitiful lack of basic biology. Men are superior in upper body strength. A boy and girl of the same weight do not represent an equal form of muscular development.

Its amazing how little you understand about basic biology. But of course you've declared war on it so I shouldn't be surprised.

 

We are either "XX" or "XY", and no amount of testosterone or estrogen can change that.

 

I do not hate transgender people of any age. I think hormone treatments should either be allowed or not allowed for all competitors. I think allowing some to compete with the advantage of steroids not allowed to others is unfair.



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No one is telling her how to live but he/she/cannot change the rules to fit the gender he/shethinks he she is at any moment in time. I and many people are saddened by ge factvtat therecare people who are confused as to what gender they are. We can sympathize with them but we do not have to bend to the winds f their unfortunate state of confused minds.

 

Na, we will just deny transgendered people the ability to enter

 

Look up GID, it explains everything including treatment to alleviate mental anguish.
As for me proving I didn't say we should let kids go free after killing - well that's in the quote function. Anyone with a mouse can see it's a lie.

Until you can answer the question I have been asking for 4 pages we will stop here.

Should she be able to play on any sports team or event while undergoing medical treatment?

 

Why if they are not taking performance enhancing drugs. But certainly you agree we should if they are.

 

While I agree an unfair advantage was given I feel they should have just allowed her to play on the boys team since she was undergoing hormone replacement therapy. I have a feeling that due to the area where this was located that was not an option.

GID is a medically recognized disorder and the treatment is in line with the diagnosis. I don't believe it would be ethical to disqualify someone for a medical condition although others here disagree, even though they won't outright say it.

 

Testosterone is typically given in hormone replacement therapy, they cannot simply stop for a few weeks / months to enter and then restart. I agree 100% if they are for all effective purposes a male they should compete with males. I do NOT believe we should ban someone from participating because of a disorder that is being treated.

So bigots made a rule now they don't like the outcome and are suing. Not supprised.

 

Running away from the reality of your failed logic isn't surprising. Next time don't blindly claim someone's personal choices should be forced upon others if you are unwilling to face the consequences of that lazy general statement.

More lies. I answered it every time.

What you did was get caught red handed trying to force your own definition of what transgender means to include medical procedure and when that failed, you ran from acknowledging it. It really was a pathetic tactic just to try and pretend I wasn't answering the question. But you were caught so no harm no foul.

Elective medical treatment that breaks the rules of substance abuse, absolutely. When you want to play sports you follow the rules. You don't get to make them up because you have a feeling.

I see instead of going point for point you've begun to block quote to avoid the more embarrassing questions like equating being gay to several hundred years of slavery. This is my shocked face.

 

I don't really care much for the racism to homophobe argument. While homosexuals have not been enslaved (in the US) they have been murdered, tortured, casterated, arrested, hung, and denied their civil rights in a multitude of areas. Try again

You have a shocked face quite often - maybe you should get that checked out

We will have to agree to disagree that because the school forced him to wrestle with the girls against his will because of bigots like you - that we should no be upset that the drugs she is taking that treat the disorder gave him an advantage.

Ffs, F off. I block quote because you dance around. All over the place spouting lies. I will continue to block quote you because you opinions are not worth me separating them out.

Let him wrestle with the boys so you babies can cry about that as well.

 

Olympic medals have been stripped because of medicine. Want proof that this won't fly, this individual won't be competing in women's wrestling in college, and will be outmatched in men's wrestling.

 

Says the guy who tried to equate race with homosexuality. Your lies are becoming even more transparent.

So have short, fat, religious, redhead and a slew of others. You can't begin to equal what slaves were put through. Its beyond insulting you are trying.

Only when I deal with rank hypocrisy from an opponent.

Once again we are all bigots. Try looking up the word next time before you embarrass yourself again. You are no less of a bigot telling normal girls if they want to wrestle they have to wrestle a girl who is breaking the drug rules.

And if you knew anything about the case you would know the school voted to only allow participation by sex on the birth certificate. But being educated on the subject obviously means so little to you.

Such language!

I'd say that too if I couldn't go point for point. Thanks for admitting it.

Once again if you were even slightly educated on the subject you would know the school has a rule that a student can only participate by the sex on their birth certificate.

But go ahead and keep repeating the same uneducated statements. It proves you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Just like when you claimed being transsexual required drugs. That one was for the books. lol

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Excellent point.