Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

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  1. Stonewall Jackson

    Stonewall Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Sexual differences are merely a social construct.........we should eliminate any distinctions in competition between 'male' and 'female'......anyone can be anyone!!!!
     
  2. ButterBalls

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    You're using conjecture to justify an obvious flawed scenario!
     
  3. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I skipped nothing. When I'm in front of a computer I will be happy to take apart your links. Assumption is the mother of all f ups.

    And yes you did use that word as a weapon since you are no less of a bigot than myself 9r anyone else.

    Pretty amusing you claim you don't want to control people's lives but you are happy to force normal mentally balanced girls to compete against a girl on performance enhancing drugs. Try reflecting on that
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the sporting authority insists on inspecting the underpants? :)
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure it is, and so are people who think they're cats and those who get 200 plastic surgeries in their life trying to "get it right".

    The transgender community is beleaguered by a whole host of problems including higher suicide rates, higher rates of other types of mental illnesses, higher rates of substance abuse, and for some reason a much higher rate of HIV infection.

    Of course, they try to explain away these things by blaming it on "discrimination", which is a pretty pat way of dealing with problems in a community that are 3 to 10 times the national average of any other group.
     
  6. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should consult scientific facts that females can NOT genetically reach the same muscle mass as males, UNLESS they take steroids. It's not sexist to state this, it's just fact. This is also fact when they are the same weight.
     
  7. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't let science get in your way of equality.

    How many times have you given birth? If we are truly equal, men should start giving birth.
     
  8. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Now I'm in front of a computer. Big mistake pretending I was running from your links.

    Science does not disagree. There isn't a single scientific study that says a declaration to be another sex changes the biological makeup of any human being.

    I'm not surprised a bit you being gay would fall back on the same failed studies that gays use to pretend homosexuality is genetic.

    I've already proven the personality of a person can alter the brain makeup of that individual.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170126082519.htm

    None of those articles could rule out environmental impact as the cause. There is no evidence a person's desire to change their sex changes their biology. None.

    In fact the articles are very clear their conclusions are based in theory not facts using words like "may" and "could be" when its time to form a conclusion. Hell, one of your articles admitted these studies' conclusions are inconsistent in their results yet you peddle them out as truths.

    Personality traits like happy, sad, apathetic all can alter a brain yet no one is stupid enough to pretend it is a biological cause and the same can be said for pretending you are a sex you are not.

    I would say that too if my argument was as weak as yours.

    No the anti science is pretending feelings about sex can change the biology of a person. That is the anti science part. Your articles are nothing but theory by their own admission and not only can they not rule out environmental impact they cant even rule out that being transgender is anything more than a psychological condition.
     
  9. Your Best Friend

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    I"m stunned the state of Texas (of all places!) would allow someone taking a performance enhancing drug (a PDE) to compete in any sort of athletic contest at all, let alone a state wrestling competition. It's mind boggling to say the least and this brings great shame to the state and to the people who determine the rules that high school athletes compete under, in my opinion.

    The rules were altered and dropped, it seems, all to please a vociferous minority of opinion and I feel particularly bad for the girls who had to wrestle with one
    hand tied behind their backs against an opponent who was something more than a normal girl.. It's shameful and people supporting this wrong must look inside themselves to try and figure out why their sense of justice and fairness is so decidedly twisted up.
     
  10. Steve N

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    Do those medical journals predict what would this girl be like if she grew up in an environment where men didn't exist and she didn't know what they were? Then what?
     
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    most of the DSM is nonsense, based on little science and lots of imagination
     
  12. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    The LGBT community has managed to get CEOs fired and shut down entire businesses for not believing in their religion. What do common citizens have against a hate group like that?
     
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    The future: the women's hall of fame is filled with trannies.
     
  14. cd8ed

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    I don't agree with sex segregation in sports personally. If they remain then transgender issues are going to eventually be dealt with, we cannot just say you don't get to participate.

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    I disagree. Just because you cannot respond without invalidating your assertion does not make it flawed.
     
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    You do not understand the word force if you believe allowing a kid in transition to play sports is force against the other kids... oh wait, you are one of the people that believe a gay couple marrying on the opposite end of the country is forcing religious people to sacrifice their beliefs. Carry on
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't heard the HIV statistic but I do not doubt it - while I agree discriminate and hate can really destroy a person especially when it is on a large scale I agree that GID is just that, a disorder, that does not mean we should not try to allow these people the freedom to find happiness. I feel the reason many conservatives are upset at the issue is they are causing us to question traditional gender constructs.
     
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    So you think he should compete as a male and use bathrooms for men. In other words, you support transgender rights.
     
  18. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I fail to see the relevance, there are many females who have never give birth.
     
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    I have said numerous times this is scientific theory but the studies are interesting and point to the fact that we don't really understand much in the way of these issues. No study has been proven that asserts why you are attempting to portray this as - not one. So my scientific hypotheses and "mays" and "coulds" carry much more weight than a blank piece of paper.

    If the reasons are environmental there is yet another reason they should not be shunned and put in the corner. So I ask again, per your op - let's pretend it is medically necessary for testosterone - which team should she be allowed to play on?
     
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    We exist in an entire nation of medicated people, not just transgender, and I'd say we're not happier as a result.
     
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    LGBT ��️(*)�� do not have that type of political power. That would have been the shareholders and the public at large. Just because you have freedom of speech does not mean you have freedom from repercussions.
     
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    It's an interesting question, the inverse is also true - a study where an island of only men or women raised together would probably have startling results.
     
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    No. She should compete against ladies without the performance enhancing drugs no one else is allowed to use. 3rd time I've had to state the same thing in this thread.

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    I'm not the one embracing a belief, that would be you. And yes you are forcing these girls if they want to play a sport against someone using a performance enhancing drug.

    Why can't you be honest enough to admit that?
     
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    No they don't. They are theories nothing more and they can be explained by the data we already know about personality and the brain. You are hoping for something that doesn't exist and that isn't science. Its belief.

    So the next kid who freaks out and attacks a child we should be tolerant of because his personality is enviromental? Do you even hear yourself?

    Ill say it again for the 4th time.

    The girls team without the use of a performance enhancing substance no one else is allowed to use.

    Got it?

    The girls team without the use of a performance enhancing substance no one else is allowed to use.

    One more time,

    The girls team without the use of a performance enhancing substance no one else is allowed to use.

    I beg you to actually read it this time.
     
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    Good Lord. Please try and be honest about this.

    A CEO lost his job because he gave to prop 8 in California and the LGBT community did everything it could to publicize it for condemnation.

    At least one photographer and one wedding cake business closed their doors because they don't believe in gay marriage because of the pressure on lawmakers and democrats from the LGBT community.

    Do not insult the intelligence of everyone here and bald face misrepresent the truth.
     

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