Trump doubles down on sanctions - threatening Europe with divorce

You jumped into a conversation half cocked. Obviously it is suicide - to any serious person who has looked into the issue - hence the term "MAD". This does not change the fact that there are some who think that a nuclear war is winnable - that we would survive relatively intact.

The fact of the matter is that if Russia/US go to full on nuclear war - both sides get annihilated. This is why the possibility is extremely low.

This however does has not stopped us from ramping up the arms race - and this has pushed the doomsday clock to two minutes to midnight.

 

If as you claim the abms dont work why are you and the russians so pissed about them?

 

One wonders why so many anti-Americans come to an American debate site.

 

You obvously have a Problem with non americans. Even more so when they are confident and with self esteem

 

Did I say something to you?

 

You send to think isis was only in Syria. They held a calphste the size

Why the before 2017 caveat? You do realize that was before Trump came to power and made it an objective to destroy ISIS don't you? Of course you do and I agree Obama did nothing in that regard.

 

What make you think im anti american? Because i have my own opinion? Because i put my own nation first?

 

ISIS was created and funded by the USA. You even traded oil with them via turkey. It was Russia that ended this.

Same as in Afghanistan, where USA created the Taliban in the 80th.

 

Sorry but I have to put you on ignore now. I can't be bothered with children who run to mommy or in this case the mods whenever it gets a little rough in here. Goodbye

 

It was Obama who pulled the troops from Iraq in December, 2011, which later devastated the Middle East and Europe.

 

People can get a flavor of the German culture just from the posts you and others submit. I think the Germans are comical, but always potentially dangerous. That 'master race' notion is never far from their consciousness.

 

German history books must be interesting to read. The curriculum must be similar to that taught in the madrassas.

 

And yet people around the world are trying desperately to live in the mighty USA.. Not many people anywhere want to emigrate to Germany, apart from Muslims, and no one wants to emigrate to a Muslim country.

 

Anyone who thinks a nuclear war is winnable (relatively intacted survival) is an idiot, unless the other side doesn't have any, in which case its not war, its genocide.

 

Since we beat your companies to trash and your irange baboon cries so much about our sucess, our curriculum cant be that bad.

Btw for first time ever i deald with an american today. My comrade and i were called to a crash site. It was an 45 year old american tourist. Normally its not our duty but we did even drive him to his hotel. I had to think about your insults.

 

Wrong again, Germany is most popular nation in the world

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22624104

The biggest group of immigrants to Germany are british btw. Followed by polish and french.

 

Like Trumpites? How many of you see the reality I'm pointing out below?

Trump said he would fix healthcare, fast. He said he wouldn't cut taxes for rich folks, then turned around and gave 85% of the tax cut to people making $400,000. He promised to fix the economy.

Real wages have gone up about 1% in two years.



Trump hasn't changed the trajectory of this...



There are brief periods where things look like they're improving a little--the second terms of Regan, Clinton, and Obama--but they always fall back.

Trump hasn't changed the long-term trend because he hasn't done the big things we have to do to get sustained higher growth ... changing tax laws to get more private (and public) spending on infrastructure, R&D, and business investment, and worker training. As a society, we have to save more and put less into dead assets like residential housing and motor vehicles. I could go on. There's a long list of things we must do to get faster growth. All Trump has done is get a little extra growth at the end of a business cycle with a Keynesian tax cut that's driven the federal deficit from $500b to $1t.

Federal tax revenue dropped while spending on entitlements and defense kept right on growing.



The real GDP is growing about as fast as it did in 2014-2015.



He made a new trade deal with Canada and Mexico that changes very little. It may not even be ratified.

He appointed a few judges. BFD.

 

Exactly - It was so obscene at one point - that US and Russia had over 50,000 warheads combined. Now they are down to about 4000 each deployed - which still gives them the ability to destroy each other numerous times over. They don't make the 20 megaton monsters any more - simply because these are not as efficient and there is simply no point - although Russia still has a few around. One of these is roughly 1500 times the payload of Hiroshima.

 

This likely had some impact in Iraq but had little or no impact on the modern incarnation of ISIS in Syria. Narratives to the contrary are propaganda narratives for the domestic consumption of the ignorant sheep - ranking right up there with the "Moderate Rebel Lie" promoted by Obama and the MSM .. or the white helmet propaganda - complete with documentaries promoting these and other false narratives.

So I understand where you might get this idea from - but its completely false - a case study in State Sponsored propaganda.

 

1) I do not think ISIS was only in Syria ... What you don't seem to realize is that the modern incarnation of ISIS was created in Syria and then when into Iraq - not the reverse. I understand why you might think otherwise as there was a huge amount of State sponsored propaganda that - while perhaps not directly - at least indirectly led people to believe this was the case. It wasn't.

2) I already explained this - the war with ISIS was already over in 2017 - except in places under the control of the US. It was the US presence that was preventing Russia and the Syrian Army from finishing the Job .. such as in Idlib and Racca.

ISIS was already destroyed prior to Trump coming into power Sans the locations where ISIS was being protected from Russia/Syria via the US presence.

 

Yeah well it is what it is. Your random American would be offended when some Mexican comes over and starts wanting things in Spanish, and it gets worse if the Mexican doesn't back down when it's obvious the American doesn't understand it. If that Mexican is a loud mouth, the offense would just skyrocket.

But when the tables are turned, and that American starts yapping English in Germany. And than laugh about the "rudeness".... than it's rather obvious who of the 2 is missing some massive EQ.

It is what is. And it seems you got a weird sense of free speech.

 

I gave you the reasons already - and who said they do not work ? They are not that great - and especially horrible in the mid and terminal phase. The best chance is in the boost phase - hence why placing them on Russia's borders is critical to have any chance of success.

There is also the problem that these ABM sites can easily be converted to short range missile sites of an offensive capacity.

Once again - If Russia as to put either ABM's or Short range nukes on our borders - the Pentagon would go berzerk - and you know this - so why would you expect Russia to react any differently ?

You are desperately grasping at silliness to try and defend an indefensible position to the point of being obtuse and disingenuous. This is beneath you and you know it.

 

Ah... sounds like you claim Muslims are 2nd class people compared to the immigrants of the US.
Nice going.

 

No they were not defeated everywhere as the Syrian war you keep pointing to proves and they were only recently defeated there. Trump inherited an ISIS in control of vast territory and defeated them.

"In early 2017, ISIL controlled approximately 45,377 square kilometers (17,520 square miles) of territory in Iraq and Syria and 7,323 km 2 of territory elsewhere, for a total of 52,700 square kilometres (20,300 sq mi).
ISIL territorial claims - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISIL_territorial_claims

 

An alarming parallel analogy comes to mind. Libya. Gaddafi specifically comes to mind. Leader of the richest most progressive country in Africa with more than half of its university students women, with the best social services as well when we the US despite our signed promises to not attack him if he gave up nuclear ambitions? We stuck a bayonet up his arse..literally...when? When he fkd with our money and tried to startup his own central bank and be paid in US dollars and or gold for his oil.

Now they are tribal with slave markets

In a snap we did that...leftists..Hillary convinced Obama to do so.

So you all think US policy will change with a leftist POTUS??? Joke opinions

Keep it up Germany and Iran. We are the ultimate bullies. We talk loud and carry a big stick to boot.