Trump: I Have Absolute Authority

So...
Does Trump have the authority to shut down the states - close the schools and businesses and order people to stay home - or not?

 

Nope...but he certainly could have recommend it...like he did with Florida. Florida shut down right after he did that

Of course THAT only happened what...last week?

 

Oh, and since you are deliberately unaware...

December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.
January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.
January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,
January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.
January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.
January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.
January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.
January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.
January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.
January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.
January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.
January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.
January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.
January 31: The Trump Administration:
January 31: The Trump Administration:

• Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
  
• Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
  
• Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

Specifically, what else should he have done, and why?

 

So you agree:
Trump did not close down the states because he does not have the power to close down the states.

Why then do you continue to complain about Trump not closing down the states sooner?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ban-with-china.570950/page-3#post-1071597866

 

Did you notice the DATES?

Your timeline ends January 31.

What did Trump do during the next 6 weeks...besides golf and hold rallies with thousands of people packed into arenas?

What did that task force do?

nuffin

 

Full quote...since you felt the need to dishonestly cut it short

 

Didn't read the whole thread. Love the armchair Constitutional lawyering from our LW brain trust on this topic, whom I am sure are all well familiar with the MANY watershed civil liberties cases, federal sovereignty cases, etc. etc. by citation. <SNORT>

If any reasonable adults are interested, this is a very relevant discussion right now, start up a thread on it. I'm not doing it in this thread though.

TLDR, YES, TRUMP DOES HAVE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO OPENING THE COUNTRY. FACT. POTUS has extremely broad authority bearing on civil rights. BOR... Takings, 4th, 5th...Commerce clause, 14th Amendment, maybe 13th Amendment, Privacy, etc. etc.... and a MOUNTAIN of other federal powers crafted under Civil Rights. But one of the most amusing aspects of the inevitable squabbles with authoritarian Democrat governors will be comparisons to GEORGE WALLACE blocking black students from school enrollment. Another will be the HILARIOUS result of watching LW DEFEND STATE'S RIGHTS (will THEY be "Dog Whistling" to racists when they do? ROFL) via the toothless 10th Amendment HAHAHAHAHAA. HOOT for sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_in_the_Schoolhouse_Door

So yeah, Democrats, get ready to watch Democrat racists repress blacks over and over again in newsreels... 6 months from the election... Do you think your lame rationalizations and lies about BS like a "Southern Strategy" or "Party Switch" or horseshit lies like "but those were the -conservative- racists" will save you? NOPE! ROFLMFAO. IT'S GONNA BE GREAT!

 

If you look at post # 23, you'll see YOU mentioned January.
Specifically, what else should he have done, and why?

Since you are, again, deliberately unaware...

February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.
February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus.
February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.
February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.
February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.
February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.
February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.
February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.
February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China.
February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.
February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.
February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.
February 29: The Trump Administration:

• Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
  
• Barred all travel to Iran.
  
• Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.

March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”
March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.
March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.
March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.
March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.
The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.
March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.
March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.
March 11: President Trump:

• Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days.
  
• Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50 billion.
  
• Directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity.”
  
• Met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump declared a national emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus.
March 13: President Trump announced:

• Public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites.
  
• A pause on interest payments on federal student loans.
  
• An order to the Department of Energy to purchase oil for the strategic petroleum reserve.

March 13: The Food & Drug Administration:
Granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits.Issued an emergency approval to Thermo - Fisher for a coronavirus test within 24 hours of receiving the request.
March 13: HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.
March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives.
March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland.
March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss on-going demand for food and other supplies.
March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.
March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.
March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus.

Specifically, what else should he have done, and why?

 

Why then do you continue to complain about Trump not closing down the states sooner?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ban-with-china.570950/page-3#post-1071597866

 

Did you actually READ what you posted?

"Was prepared to"

"Had a team ready to.."

They did NOTHING

Oh and

Abject FAILURE. WHO tests were AVAILABLE and nowhere in that list was there a request for them

When we should have been testing tens of thousands in March...we were testing hundreds.

You provided a record of chaos and failure

 

March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

MARCH FOURTH!!!!

Almost six weeks after Trump realized this was serious enough to stop flights from China...

 

You are -painfully- aware of the fact your statement is not true.

So, you now that you have the list of what Trump did form Jan 1 to March 15:

Specifically, and w/o the benefit of hindsight, what else should he have done, when should he have done it, and why?

 

You have the list of what Trump did form Jan 1 to March 15:
Specifically, and w/o the benefit of hindsight, what else should he have done, when should ha have done it, and why?

 

And it amounts to ZERO

 

The fact you know your statement is false aside....
Specifically, and w/o the benefit of hindsight, what else should he have done, when should he have done it, and why?

 

A little too little a little too late. Back when Trump was telling us the virus would blow over, the governors of Washington (where the virus first appeared in the US) , Oregon, and California began to stop public gatherings, to shut down schools, and to promote social distancing and other protective measures. To screen those arriving at the airport. Thus the virus has been mostly contained on the West Coast while it is still exploding in the Rust Belt. The biggest problem states have been having, is in accessing material and equipment from from Federal resources.

It is like with the hurricane in Puerto Rico, where Trump did nothing, other than a few cursery lines for the camera, expecting the problem to take care of itself. That is how he has been approaching the Corona Virus. Ignore it enough and maybe it will go away. Television stations have stopped broadcasting his daily briefings because they tend to be full of faulty and misleading information. And they always end up with him do his typical hate filled bull#@&.

Trump is no leader. This virus, like everything else, just shows how weak and ineffective of a leader Trump is. This virus is being defeated with the leadership of governors, not Trump, the president of low expectations.

 

Specifically, and without the benefit of hindsight, what else should he have done, when, and why?

 

he has no such authority.

Congress? maybe. but certainly not the President.

 

It's a good thing the United States has Ron on their legal team. Judging by your posts, I can see your vast legal experience.

 

A few posts back you accused him of responsibility for 23000 deaths. Make up your mind.

 

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I read the Constitution, you should try it sometime.

its pretty clear what authority President does and does not have.

 

so since you are unfamiliar with the US Constitution, you instead choose to bait and troll.

#sad

 

While Trump may be able to exercise authority in this matter, having him brag about it makes him appear ...

 

I think it is his detractors who have been claiming he is supposed to order the states and cities on what they should be doing and controlling those situations.