Trump-Kim summit breaks down after North Korea demands end to sanctions

Reject all you want. But, you don’t send 3 aircraft carrier groups to the coast of Korea over barking.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/12/politics/us-navy-three-carrier-exercise-pacific/index.html

Hong Kong (CNN)The presence of three US aircraft carriers off the Korean Peninsula is pushing the region closer to nuclear war, according to a North Korean letter to the UN secretary-general.

The three carriers, the USS Ronald Reagan, Theodore Roosevelt and Nimitz, and their multiship strike groups are finishing up four days of exercises Tuesday in the waters between South Korea and Japan.

It is the first time three of the 100,000-ton behemoths have sailed together in the Western Pacific in a decade. South Korean and Japanese warships have joined them during the exercise.

 

The US got plenty in return. It employed pallet builders to construct suitable platforms for the piles of $$$ obama sent them.

 

Now are playing one of the lib’s favorite games: Twenty Questions

If yoy think kim is nor dangerous tell us why

 

You mean like no nuclear testing and destruction of facilities is nothing?

 

But Trump cannot help himself...he said he is in love with Kim Jong Un…the dictator who had his own brother murdered and every day commits crimes against humanity on his own people while he lives a life of luxury. We know that Trump's love for all dictators makes him do crazy things because that is how one in love acts.

I wonder if those letters were perfumed.

 

Got to have a mind to make one up.. Seriously, Trump bots have none. They just jump from one spoonfed Fox & Friends party line (bumper sticker) to the next.

 

To be fair, the US owed that money to Iran. We canceled the arms deal after it was paid for and simply kept their money for nearly 4 decades.

 

Well he'll surely rule North Korea with an iron fist now!!!! Before his hold on the nation was tenuous and about to break but those photographs will surely make his formerly recalcitrant and disloyal populace view him as an earthly god-king....
o.... wait............ they already viewed him as an earthly god king with the sort of piety only medieval peasants can muster....

 

Whattaboutism is not worthy of a thoughtful response.

 

Trump is on a totally different level when it comes to lying and perversions of the truth. Comparisons to other Presidents fall flat. There is no other President comparable.

 

You dismissed the Iran deal despite the fact that every involved country (including Trump's appointees) and countries not involved with direct skin in the game, like Israel, agree that Iran has fully complied and it has resulted in extensive and concrete steps by Iran as "America not getting anything in return."

You dismissed the Paris accord because it did not include monitoring (patently untrue) and enforcement (true, but you are talking about an agreement that requires ratification by every single country on the planet with their own legislators). The Paris Accord relied upon extensive and self-imposed enforcement and used the threat of the lack of access to new technology as a method for ensuring compliance.

 

How did Obama "as much as admit" that he was on the verge of declaring war? You mean when he said that he "was not afraid to use the full might of the US military?"

And no, I am not willing to support full military assault on North Korea.

 

I read this post in a Yoda voice.

 

I think kim was trying to bully a new president to get paid off with bribes

And if it were hillary or jeb bush in office kim might have been rewarded

But trump surprised him

 

I only wanted to know if you feel you can trust what Kim says. I originally thought you'd say he's a liar and untrustworthy, but now I wonder.

 

The whole NK talk with Trump after the election results and all the statements surrounding it. What did you think that was about, his plans to have them sing kumbaya?

Ok then. So you'll have to move at the glacial pace Easterners use for all negotiations, but most especially for important negotiations, since you're not willing to drop the demonstrated at least 2 nuclear bombs on them after several years of attrition warfare and with invasion fleets on standby that is required to secure 100% immediate compliance without question.

 

I was no aware of his comments regarding Warmbier until I saw them on TV this morning.

No wonder Kim upped the ante on Trump.

Trump essentially disavowed the word of one of his own citizens on the world stage.

 

No I do not trust kim

 

You present a false choice. North Korea got something of significant value by meeting with the leader from the world's most powerful country in person and getting praise and salutes from him towards the North Korean generals and leader. Without that value, NK was and still is going to retain their leadership and authority, but that does not somehow negate the value derived from getting that propaganda video.

In fact, you forget the value derived from that propaganda that North Korea can use towards the other leaders around the world.

 

The bloated s**t-stack repeated his shameful Helsinki performance, this time in regards to Otto Warmbier:

President Donald Trump says he takes North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at his word when he told him he had nothing to do with the treatment of deceased American Otto Warmbier. CNN's Jim Acosta says Trump is giving Kim a pass. #CNN #News
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He says Kim denies having had knowledge of the situation, and says he takes the fat little f**k "at his word." Same treasonous, shameful **** as when he sided with Putin at Helsinki.

 

It wasn't a "bad deal" so much as a refusal by Kim to agree to anything that didn't include a complete lifting of all sanctions.

What kind of a president goes to a meeting with an adversarial dictator without any preparation, no consultation with experts, and no detailed plan, but instead just goes and unilaterally wings it? A dope? A person who's unfit for the job and hasn't a clue?

 

Paris Accord had no monitoring. Each country was supposed to publish it's own stats.

There was no enforcement and it was nothing but a hand shake deal because Obama knew it was DOA in the Senate. I believe that was the case in several other countries also, but I won't bother to Google it.

I did notice you glossed over the fact that the US was expected to pick up the tab for China and India to maybe stop expanding coal power production by 2030.

As for the Iran deal, there was no inspection on military bases, where Iran did the majority of their nuclear work.

 

But your dear leader said "I take him at his word". Who is the dope here then, Kim or Trump?

 

The simplest way I can explain it for you is diplomacy

Trump obviously does not accept kims word and wants verification

 

Around the world, nobody agrees with that but US Republicans.