Trump refuses to pay for damages in Syria

Good.

The UN should seize the Assad regime's assets in order to pay for the refugee crisis it created.

 

Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb

Born Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb
(حمزة علي الخطيب)
October 24, 1997
Al-Jiza, Daraa, Syria
Died May 25, 2011 (aged 13)
Daraa, Syria
Cause of death Torture and mutilation and/or gunshot
Residence Daraa, Syria
Nationality Syrian
Known for Detainment, torture and murder that sparked Syrian protests

Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb (Arabic: حمزة علي الخطيب‎) (October 24, 1997 – May 25, 2011) was a 13-year-old Syrian boy who died while allegedly in the custody of the Syrian government[1] in Daraa. On April 29, 2011, he was detained during a protest. On May 25, 2011, his body was delivered to his family, having been badly bruised, along with burn marks, three gunshot wounds, and severed genitals.

 

I see no reason why they would. Or do you think because of Merkel getting along with Putin could spark suspicion, the two countries could become allies and conspire against the US? That wouldn't happen either, I think. Both countries, Russia and Germany, are satisfied for now to preserve the status quo. Btw., Trump and Putin get along splendidly.

 

Well it is a story about a child apparently killed - apparently by the air force intelligence but it is not what you said. It is not one of the children who were arrested for the Graffiti as you said.

 

Of course.

 

No.

 

As a country who has interfered in the sovereignty of Venezuela in the past - orchestrating a coup there and very much involved in organising the opposition and arming them so that they can act violently and in various other ways working against the people of Venezuela by acting against their democratically elected Government, I would think the US should keep well out of it. You have already played a strong part in the turmoil they are going through and apparently why they would not trust the UN to provide food and medical supplies is because of you. Getting the US out of things and getting that started would be the beginning of solving the situation.

 

Let's hope your right (in a way?) because Russia has form in 'taking no prisoners'; also they're smarter than us - much smarter.

 

Well 58% of people of the US prefer diplomacy rather than sanctions towards Russia (never mind war)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/favor-diplomacy-sanctions-russia.aspx

 

Nah! I was just reacting having noticed that they were blaming Germany for apparently being a middle man in allowing Iran to deliver arms to Yemen! That on top of Germany being very against Trump reneging on the Iran deal and yes Trumps aggressiveness towards Merkel and in various other ways a sort of negative campaign against Germany seems to be going on.

 

Thank goodness for that: and it's reflected here on PF that not every American is a yee-haa'ing pumped-up redneck spoiling for a fight. No, the insanity is in Washington, and considering all the lying, dissembling, Machiavellian plotting to get rid of pres. Trump, and various other pathetically juvenile infighting, kudos to him for carrying on irrespective of the ****-fest.

 

Of course which goes along with them having had a hand in the Coup.

 

wow, you're too smart for this forum, I suggest you upgrade to global economies debates.

 

Absolutely NOT.. anyone that knows anything about the ME knows the Saudis supported Mubarak and Egypt.. They also supported Egypt with humanitarian aid.. They were furious when Mubarak was forced out and even more upset when MB was in charge.

 

When Barbara Walters asked Assad about this boy, he said he didn't do it... his government did it.

CAIRO — Hamza Ali al-Khateeb, a round-faced 13-year-old boy, was arrested at a protest in Jiza, a southern Syrian village near Dara’a, on April 29. Nothing was known of him for a month before his mutilated corpse was returned to his family on the condition, according to activists, that they never speak of his brutal end.

But the remains themselves testify all too clearly to ghastly torture. Video posted online shows his battered, purple face. His skin is scrawled with cuts, gashes, deep burns and bullet wounds that would probably have injured but not killed. His jaw and kneecaps are shattered, according to an
unidentified narrator, and his penis chopped off.

“These are the reforms of the treacherous Bashar,” the narrator says. “Where are human rights? Where are the international criminal tribunals?”

In Syria and beyond, the youth’s battered body has cast into shocking relief the terrors wielded by the Syrian state against its people.

continued

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/world/middleeast/31syria.html

 

Thanks.

 

Good point. Perhaps right before the midterms.

 

Actually, most of the bombing was carried out by Assad. Russian bombs probably came in second and the US in 3rd.

 

No, Jazz.. Most of the destruction was caused by Assad's military.. followed by Russia. What your deal? You seem to want to blame the US for everything.. regardless of the facts. Refugees were pouring out of Syria long before the US go involved in late 2013.

There will be more refugees.. There is going to be another massive slaughter in and around Idlib.

 

LOL - Ain't gonna happen, but feel free to clutch your pearls as tightly as you can.

The Stalinist regime in VZ will collapse under the weight of its own oppression and failed socialist program just as other socialist/communist countries like the Soviet Union collapsed before it.

 

Below is a photo of the boy (now a young man) whose anti-Assad graffiti



(something along the lines of "Your turn Doctor")

and torture by Assad's security forces in Daraa (commanded by Bashar al-Assad's cousin Atef Najib) sparked the Syrian civil war - his name is Mouawiya Syasneh:



The Boy Who Started the Syrian Civil War
https://www.aljazeera.com/programme...2/boy-started-syrian-war-170208093451538.html

Six Years of War in Syria: 'I regret that so many innocent people had to die' says the boy whose defiance sparked the conflict
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ria-regret-many-innocent-people-had-die-says/

As far as I know he's still alive, but I can't confirm that...

 

I seriously doubt that one kid could start a civil uprising. It was probably a coincidence of timing; the FSA kicked off then was swallowed up by jihadists, and the rest is history!

 

It was four kids, actually, and a police kiosk was burned in addition to the graffiti.

This incident, and the brutalization of those kids which provoked the response that sparked the conflict, occurred before the FSA, al Nusra, ISIS, et al, were formed. The only thing that is coincidental about this is that it occurred while the so-called Arab Spring was sweeping across the Maghreb and Middle East, hence the graffiti "Your turn Doctor".

I don't know how you could doubt that the actions of one individual can spark a revolution. For example, this is the man whose self-immolation in Tunisia is credited with sparking the entire Arab Spring:



Tarek el-Tayeb Mohamed Bouazizi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi

Of course, the conditions for these uprisings are usually well-established before someone does something that sets off an explosion.

Here's another example of an individual whose death sparked a revolution - in this case the Cedar Revolution in Lebanon





and as we all can see (and already know), the Syrian civil war isn't Bashar al-Assad's first rodeo....

 

Yes, but a snotty-nosed kid? Even 4 of 'em. And actually, do we really know they were 'brutalised'? I mean, we have to be so careful about what we believe or not believe these days, with fake news an' all? Especially in Syria.

 

No.. After Assad began shooting Syrian protestors 10,000 Sunni conscripts defected from the Syrian army to form the FSA.

The protestors were protesting the treatment of the schoolboys.