Trump sues to block Congress subpoena for his financial records

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  1. hawgsalot

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    Didn't we deal with this before the election, oh yeah I remember this nonsense then. Bottom line there is no conflict of interest only another witch hunt to continue the BS. Mules found no conflicts do you think your committees will seriously?
     
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    Have you noticed that Bonespurs had a majority in the House and the Senate until his blundering caused the blue wave?

    I have; the only thing that Bonespurs did was to push through that catastrophe of a "tax reform" bill.

    He's done nothing else except whine, sob and cry about being investigated because of his own damned behavior.

    He's a blundering fool.
     
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    So ****ing what?

    It has a bearing on his decision making, and is therefore easily within congressional oversight.

    Making fairytale "legal" arguments based upon nothing but hiding information isn't very convincing.

    He's going to cough it up, and look like a fool.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would have to first provide evidence of any influence while he was in office. You simply cannot attack the citizen's right to privacy, because you want to, or for cheap political points. That is all this is. A blatant abuse of power because Hillary lost an election, its pathetic...
     
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    Wouldn't that be true for any elected official? Why doesn't someone draft legislation requiring all people who run for office to release their tax returns? I'd like to see Nancy P's and Chuck's
     
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    The public has a right to assess that for themselves, with full knowledge of all the facts.
    And of course the public has a right to know if the president is making policy that is aimed at benefiting his own interests, rather than the country's. Trump supporters are doing everything they can to prevent any potential information coming to light.
     
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    So would I, but this involves Congressional oversight of the executive branch.
     
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    Blue wave please you won the house and lost seats in the senate your wave was a best a push. Catastrophe that has the country rocking and rolling good luck running on that, you might notice your candidates are avoiding the economy like the plague. Done nothing wow largest tax cut, supreme court nominees, renegotiation of nafta, criminal justice bill on and on and on. Your partisanship is blinding you as usual.
     
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    As an old lib once said, politics ain't beanbag

    He’s in a street fight
     
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    To hide his crimes
     
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    Congress should have access to every prospective President's financial records. It's amazing to me that that's not already the case. The possibilities of corruption and conflicts of interest are extraordinary. I don't have to tell you. Probably because the last President this was really a concern with was Nixon, which was quite awhile ago, and there's been a long-standing precedent of turning over tax returns before running.

    Why on Earth you guys thought it would be OK for Trump's tax returns to be a mystery I'll never understand. You should never have allowed that and you should have threatened impeachment when he installed his own KIDS as top advisers. You would not have tolerated that from Obama or Clinton. Not in a million years. And nor should you have.
     
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    But isn’t that true for all elected officials? So have you called your senator or congressperson to ask them to pass legislation that all people running for office be forced to release their tax returns? Sounds like if it was an issue you’d be demanding that, since you aren’t, aren’t you the one keeping it from coming to light??
     
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    That obese ***** wouldn’t know what to do in a street fight.

    He’s using the office to shield himself. He has zero innate ability to fight.
     
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    Given the vetting during the election, the 3 year investigation into his campaign...I think it’s time, if the Dems want to continue to not accept the mueller report and investigate instead of letting go of the 2016 election to show in court why...
     
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    False. According to the Constitution, Congress has the authority to subpoena and try any US citizen.

    There have been times in the past when White House officials ignored subpoenas and Congress had the Sergeant At Arms detain said individuals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_at_Arms_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

    Maybe this needs to happen again if Trump refuses to obey Congress's authority to subpoena him or his staffers.
     
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    Post the section that says Congress can hold a criminal trial and sentence someone to a prison term.

    That is not a judicial proceeding. Trump has the authority to invoke executive privilege. Congress must have a legislative purpose they cannot simply harass another branch of government. How about the Executive Branch sending the FBI to arrest members of congress for abuse of power and an attempted coup? You really want the separate branches of government to get is such pissing matches? Trump has a constitutional right of office to executive privileges. Subpoenas must have a probable cause/. Congress must have clear legislative purposes to demand the private records including tax returns. All these citizens they want to drag before them have already paid huge legal cost some I have heard interviewed having to go into their retirement accounts and kids college funds. Now this arse's in Congress want to drag them all through it again even though they have all given their testimony to the Special Counsel and the Democrats have that testimony.

    All to just harass and badger the President of the United States.
     
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    That is your fondest hope
     
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    Comey finds nothing on Clinton and you guys scream foul. Mueller finds at least ten instances of obstruction and Barr pushes it under the rug, and you accept this.
     
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    And all those people have to do is plead the 5th and clam up.
     
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    Baloney, what blinders you wear. You ignore the changes made to Comey's report to make it sound like she was less criminally responsible and plenty of real crimes were found but Comey decided by himself that no prosecutor would touch it. He might have a point there, any prosecutor who went after her would most likely find himself suicided with two shots to the back of the head.
     
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    So you think trump ran for president to avoid having his high crimes as a private citizen exposed?

    Dont make me laugh
     
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    Our "presuhdint" thinking that the office protects him from congressional oversight isn't funny.
     
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    Trump is not cooperating with the democrst witchhunters in congress and he shouldnt
     
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    You realize that there isn't any real reason for the House chair to ever receive the documents from Trump unless he intends to publicly disclose them which would violate the law... right? I mean, it's a pretty transparent operation here. The only reason for the house chair to demand them in the first place is to do electioneering research for the clown car crew running against Trump. He knows, legally, he cannot make those returns public. So, would you then support the Nads going to prison when the info in those returns shows up on the front pages of the Times or the WAPO?
     

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