Trump tax returns leaked, and show he lost more money than anyone in the time period.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    As expected, you cannot provided the text from your "citation" that supports your assertion.
    This, I am sure, applies to all of the other assertions so listed.

    You cannot support what you claimed and you know it
     
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  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The clean money is in the pockets of the people who invested in his properties. Of course the money laundering idea is only a theory, which might explain his numbers which dont make any sense. If you finance a high-rise with dirty money from Russia, you could mark up the price, and then claim massive depreciation each year. That would appear as "losses". However, it would still not explain the size of his losses. Many of his investments were flat out duds, so maybe he was a money launder and a bad business man (both). Who knows.

    This deserves another investigation. They need to pull Muller back from his PTO. Muuuuullllleeeeeer!
     
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  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He filed his taxes with the IRS as required. You can't really expect him to cooperate with those already known for making false accusations. He also knows that his opponent will make it a big issue in the upcoming election.
     
  4. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    You mean the Trump who "suffered" a billion dollars in losses and yet is a billionaire? Was he lying about those losses to avoid paying taxes? Nah.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ...says the subscribers of Russian collusion.

    Yeah, since I just gave you a long list of people who lost billions of dollars but are still mysteriously billionaires.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    He won't cooperate with those who would find the truth that would prove Trump's guilt. He has been flaunting the law all his life. What has changed?
     
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    Does anyone cooperate with those who would prove their guilt?
    Does not cooperating with those who would find your guilt prove your guilt?
     
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    You are right. The 100 visits to Russia and Ukraine by Trump's campaign members were for vacation purposes only, yes?
     
  9. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't get to make someone guilty in the absence of proof of innocence. I don't have any evidence of your guilt, so I would like all of your financial records and a thorough search of your home. If you support abuse of power against those you oppose, you can't complain when it is used against you. That being said, I have no idea what you mean by "Flaunting" the law.
     
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    Why do you refuse to accept Mueller's conclusion re: collusion with the Russians?
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    If you are innocent then you cooperate, yes? They are trying to find the truth and he is impeding that investigation, which points to his culpability.
     
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    You avoided the question:
    Does not cooperating with those who would find your guilt prove your guilt?
    Only in a "guilty until proven innocent" world.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah especially with Cohen going to Prague so much.

    I mean hardly anyone goes to Russia or Ukraine and when they do it's for a criminal venture.
     
  14. Pycckia

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    Absolutely not! Never, ever cooperate with the police! The police are not interested in the truth. They are interested in closing the case.

    And the Democrats in Congress sure as shootin' don't care a fig about the truth.
     
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    Every year that Trump claimed billions of dollars in losses required ordinary citizens to cover those losses through defaulted loans and the such. But to put the numbers into perspective to illustrate just how much Trump was losing, in one of the years in question, Trump alone accounted for nearly 2¢ out of every dollar of business loss reported in the entire United States. That's astounding when you really think of it.

    As it turns out, and as many of us had already suspected, Trump didn't have the Midas touch where everything he touched turned to gold as he wanted everyone to believe. He lost over $1.17 billion dollars in less than 10 years. I give him credit for being the best self-promoter in the world. When it boils down to it, Trump's value can all be placed on his name alone where it adorns golf clubs, hotels, office buildings and condos all over the world. That's his net worth, his name on a marquee, that's how he perpetuates the myth. Thousands of people voted for Donald Trump with the express reasoning that he's wealthy and subsequently must be a great businessman and will run the country like he ran his businesses. They were half right.

    We're living in a country where 1% of the country owns 35% of the wealth. The majority of Americans, the other 80%, collectively owns just 11% of the wealth. The tax code has been manipulated over the years to favor the wealthiest in America. This was clearly demonstrated when it was revealed that Warren Buffet was paying a lower tax rate than his secretary. Buffet was paying around 15% while his secretary was paying around 30%. There's a very good argument to be made for a flat income tax, and I'm all for it.

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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats not how it works. If you do not allow me to do a full search of your home, you should just report to prison and start serving your sentence. Is that the justice system you want to live under?
     
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    How much did Ted Turner lose in 10 years.
     
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    Oh is he the president of the United States? If not, then it's a non-issue.
     
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    Of course it is when you only have subjective nonsense and no objective argument.
     
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    Trump was not President well he booked his losses.
     
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    There you go bursting their "orange man bad" focus.
     
  22. HumbledPi

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    Even more reason to see the last six years of his returns prior to his election.
     
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    Does he get credit any gains he has made, ever?

    Never mind, I know your answer.
     
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    I wouldn't release them either. I'd tell them to stick it in their ears. If there is something wrong with his returns, the IRS will let him know. Or if he didn't file them at all, he could be whacked for that.
     
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    There is nothing illegal with loans from foreign entities so no reason for the IRS to report but there is definitely a problem with conflicts of interest
     

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