Trump threatens shooting of Central American migrants who throw stones

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  1. dagosa

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    Pick one. Your fact is platitude from 1789.
    Go ahead. Pick out a few.
    Hide behind something obscure like, I lack the depth of knowledge.
    That’s like the NRA saying doctors have no right to comment on gun violence because they lack the depth of knowledge. The NRA lackies depth of knowledge is field dripping a Glock. Wow.....impressive.
     
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    We should change the name from Uncle Sam to Daddy Sam

    Because thats what government is to the lefties
     
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    That fact is a fact. I already listed a few in another post in this thread line. Take your pick. Human behavior has not changed significantly in 10,000 years, and history keeps repeating itself.
     
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    That is why they pushed the liberal vote, they KNOW women are foolish and vote for security, rather than progress, which has risks but often HUGE rewards.
     
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    Another false complaint..”.I already have listed them.” Go ahead, make my day. Or, does specificity allude you.
    Evidence, present it.
     
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    Lying - hundreds of examples.
    Stealing - using charity donations to pay personal fines. Using charity donations for personal fixtures and fittings.
    Fraud - creating a bogus university

    And the list continues........................
     
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    Wait for the retort; probably a platitude from the 1700s, Benghazi or Hillary’s Emails or, OBama said you could keep your doctor.
    Maybe a quote from their beloved Hannity....
     
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    Human behavior has not changed significantly in 10,000 years ? That’s a non contributing self indulgent platitude that means nothing. 10,000 years ago a far right extremist could not shoot up a crowd with a bump stock equipped rifle then have his rights to do so defended by paid politicians.....and worse, republicans agreeing.
     
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    That’s suppose to mean something ? So, you hate your SS and Medicare and you’re going down to the federal building to renounce it. Other wise, it’s anothe false hood, a platitude. When it gets personal, everyone is liberal. Even a republican. You’ll use that socialism base idea when you need to. In time of need, you’ll ask the Village to help you...it’s called 911.
     
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    Let’s add, miss use of campaign funds to pay off hookers.This guy overwhelms everyone with his deviant behavior. We even have Trump Humpers claiming narcissism isn’t a real word....it applies to everyone. Well, it may they are using themselves as an example.
     
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    In the second Punic war, in a single battle, 70,000 solders were killed in one day, and guns did not exist on the battlefield. A skilled Indian fighter could accurately sling 10 arrows in one minute.
    And your hang up with "far right extremist" it totally incorrect. Most (but not all) murderers are leftist, liberals and democrats. Sorry, but when people throw out lies like your last statement, resembling fake news repeats, or I will give them the benefit of the doubt, through ignorance, it makes our logical and correct thinking based on available evidence shine like a diamond. Guns spread around power, just like Mao (a leftist communist) stated, all political power comes out of the barrel of a gun, then killed 40 million UNARMED Chinese to prove it. Yes, freedom is not free, and there are 330 MILLION people in America, so you base your whole argument on the exception. On that day, one in 330 million people misused their freedoms. 329,999,999 people did not. By your logic we should disband our entire army because someone may get killed defending our nation?/? Same logic. And using the same illogical logic you used as an example, we should outlaw fertilizer and fuel oil because some moron named blew up an IRS building with it, as well as outlaw roads, rental trucks, gas stations because he used them to build the bomb and transport it.
    The truth is, a single nut job, political persuasion immaterial throughout history, did some damage during his suicide actions. I am glad I do not live the life of a coward, for I will only die once. I am not afraid to die (been there done that), as much as the liberals are afraid to LIVE!
    If you lean ANYTHING from this exchange, learn "Freedom is NOT FREE".
     
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    Then you have heard the truth, and rejected it, right? hahaha
     
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    I already have, and I did in a post in this thread. You don't even have the skills to find it??? No sense posting the facts, if you cannot read or remember them when they are spoon fed to you.
     
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    Freedom is not free ? Let’s pay for our freedom by slaughtering innocent children ? That’s a rediculous notion. With that entire tirate, maybe we should just reject modern medicine and die 30 years earlier....you go first. I value life over the freedom to let people shoot children on a whim. That’s not our history, that’s Russia......the country our leader likes to emulate.
     
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    I PAID for that. I certainly would have agreed NOT to pay for it, and save it myself and not need anyone to collect it, invest in it etc. The government has no defined right within the constitution to take from me to give to you, or the power to poorly invest my money in a system that is currently failing to work. Investments I have made in my lifetime have made me a multi millionaire, and those investments were often smaller than that stolen from my paycheck to support those who wouldn't or didn't save through SS. Sorry, you want to be part of a group that fails, rather than those who don't. I feels sorry for you socialist, so incapable of taking care of yourself like little children.
     
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    Talking around it again. Platitudes are not the truth. Still waiting for specifics, evidence. Not roses are red, violets are blue crappola.
    Well, you could have refused it earlier. Mennonites do. At the very least, you should be instructing your family on how to avoid socialism by individually explaining how not to have to pay payroll taxes. If you support avoiding a Grammy state, that’s the least believers should do.
    When it’s personal, you’re are liberal like everyone else. You won’t do it.
     
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    Oh, now drag out the little children stuff when all else fails to be a grown up. I use to pay attention to liberals who said "a society is defined by how it treats it's most helpless individuals", and then have their biggest political fear of their "right" have 500,000 infanticides a year. hahahaha Murder a half a million babies a year hahaahhaha. a right to strip the right to life from 500,000 individuals a year. Sorry, you need to stay up on the porch with the little dogs on this one.

    And your HATE for trump, who is busy trying to protect our borders and way of life, given us a booming economy, a court system that will again rule on what the constitution actually says, not shitt made up, getting long term trade deals that are fair, make sure our voting system is fair, making AMERICA FIRST his policy.

    People like me support giving you the OPPORTUNITY to be whatever you want, but we realize some will, some will not take those opportunities and make it so they can take care of themselves. instead they get pregnant at 16, do drugs and get addicted, steal, work for government, run for office as liberal democrats, and bring about a mediocre society, and throw away the world leadership we had in the 1940s through the end of the 1970s, when liberalism started our decline as a nation so far down to where we cannot even control our own borders and cannot keep the societal destroying drugs out or people who use them (reference what happened to CHINA in the 1800s). I will tell you what, you need to take some civics classes and you desperately need history classes to understand where we are headed as a nation if we don't follow Trumps leadership.
     
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    Some people have, they end up in JAIL. Sometimes in Rome, you have to do what he romans do to survive. You see, Until I was about age 22 and my brain began finished maturing, I was democrat who had not grown up views on life. Then over the next 10-15 years, after seeing how we lost the war I had fought in, and looking at the liberals surrounding me in college and the "Frasier" type character of the professors, and I started working for a living, moved to a republican position. Then as I aged into my late 30s and got my masters, I realized from History and our constitution and from the men who wrote it, that the best societies were libertarian in nature. I also learned that societies that are run by overreaching governments are corrupt by their very nature communist and liberal (Germany, Russia, china) ended up killing large sections of the populations of those countries. I also noticed we wear spiraling into that in America. A Donald Trump like person is what we needed badly to stop the decline.

    As far as Social Security goes, just return my payments from my "investment?!?!", adjusted for inflation in SS, and I will gladly "get out" and ask for no more help or money from them. being a slave is not my bag.
     
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    You could have done something else over those 10-15 years. You could have recieved an education in the sciences which touch mankind in every facet of his life.....in ways you would never think.
    There are no decision anymore that people in power make that isn’t influenced nor should it be, by anything but fact based evidence, tested and re-evaluated. Secondly, the world is much too complicated to think a small group let alone a single person has the answers. The best societies are made of individuals who realize their limitations and combine their efforts for the common good. They exclude no body.

    This is how our military and any major corporation functions. The United States deserves no less consideration. Trump is out for Trump and raids our treasury to that end. Trumpstiltskuns have blinders on.
     
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    Social security and Medicare are NOT INVESTMENTS. That’s a canard . They are insurance policies, not only for minimal living expenses but for healthcare. Everyone needs healthcare, which most cannot afford. Everyone needs protection from job cutting recessions, even in retirement. .

    They both contribute to disability insurance. They are NOT INVESTMENTS. They are non profit pay-go insurances that no investor I have ever spoken to, recommends you go without. They are more insulated from the market trends then investments. Talk to an investor.....
     
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    There may be some cheaters getting a free ride but for the most part SS and Medicare are earned benefits

    As you may have guessed I was referring to women who have children out of wedlock and expect the taxpayers to support them
     
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    The women who did what ? Had artificial insemnation ? The gop line....let’s blame the poor for hoarding all the money. Why aren’t they rich? Guess what, the working poor are not exempt from payroll taxes. They are paying for entitlements them selves.
     
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    Not unless Obamacare paid for it

    No, for every deadbeat welfare mom there is a deadbeat dad somewhere out of the picture
     
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    And your claim is, welfare iqueens are getting rich ?
    Still, the SS and Medicare part A trust fund are in the Black and paid for by all workers, in payroll taxes not by income tax.
    Fact, 2.6/trillion in the nation debt is what’s owed to social program tax ( pay roll) In reality the working poor are paying more into the military then the other way around
     
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    Most people paying into SS and Medicare are not poor

    As for the military the evil rich that liberals hstecso much pay 90% of the defense budget
     

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